Most Brits Are Actually Spanish

[D. Spencer Hines]

Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.

People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."

Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.

Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.

Deeeelightful! -- DSH

The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.

These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.

"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.

"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."

Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.

Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

[D. Spencer Hines]

Deeeeeelightful!

And:

Hilarious!

This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

But it won't...

Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

DSH
--------------------------------------------------------

"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.

People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."

Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.

Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.

Deeeelightful! -- DSH

The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.

These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.

"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.

"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."

Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.

Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

[ElGaucho]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

Not only is this fact, a theory, yes, but it is also something that makes
much sense.

Now, I have also noticed a similarity in the "accent" of some proud, pure
Scots and some Spanish pronounciations (from Spain)... I have told some
...'you know, you do sound to me as a Spaniard speaking in English, same
RRR's, same manerisms in the speech, other things'... of course, they never
take too kindly to such comments, but they are true.

There was a time when I wasn't that used to sounds from Scotland, yet quite
used to many Spanish accents, that I really thought they were gallegos
trying to speak English...'cause their English was quite "strange" and they
did sound like some Spaniards.

One might think some info like this could be a start, the possibility of a
change in their attitudes towards other cultures... The English, I mean,
but...man, that'd be impossible. King or Queen and Empire...even in ruins.
The pride goes on.

Oscar

Post by D. Spencer Hines
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH
--------------------------------------------------------
"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.
The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.
People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."
Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.
Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.
Deeeelightful! -- DSH
The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.
These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.
"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.
"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."
Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.
Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

[Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||]

ElGaucho wrote:
|| "D. Spencer Hines" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:bst_g.32
||
||| Deeeeeelightful!
||
||| And:
||
||| Hilarious!
||
||| This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
||| referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
||| inferiors.
||
|| Not only is this fact, a theory, yes, but it is also something that
|| makes much sense.
||
|| Now, I have also noticed a similarity in the "accent" of some proud,
|| pure Scots and some Spanish pronounciations (from Spain)... I have
|| told some ...'you know, you do sound to me as a Spaniard speaking in
|| English, same RRR's, same manerisms in the speech, other things'...
|| of course, they never take too kindly to such comments, but they are
|| true.
||
|| There was a time when I wasn't that used to sounds from Scotland,
|| yet quite used to many Spanish accents, that I really thought they
|| were gallegos trying to speak English...'cause their English was
|| quite "strange" and they did sound like some Spaniards.
||
|| One might think some info like this could be a start, the
|| possibility of a change in their attitudes towards other cultures...
|| The English, I mean, but...man, that'd be impossible. King or Queen
|| and Empire...even in ruins. The pride goes on.
||
|| Oscar
||

Oh yes you pair of shitehawkes the British really look like Spaniard don't
they, how could we have been so stupid not to have noticed all these years.
We have so much in common like torturing bulls and donkey's, and all the
women in Britain dress in black and sit on their arse's all day don't they.

Also I hope you are a Spaniard giving us a lecture on Empire after the
misery you lot caused around the world with your genocide. It was for the
sake of humanity that we had to give you a good hiding and take your gold
off you.

However what goes around comes around I suppose as we are giving you all our
fucking hard earned money through that great gobshite the E.U. Don't bite
the hand that feeds you swarthy ignorant fuckweeds.

[RafaMinu]

All these centuries fighting each other, and now it turns out we share
a common Neanderthal Ancestor...

Hey, how's it goin, bro?
Or should I call you cousin...?

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
|| news:bst_g.32
||
||| Deeeeeelightful!
||
||
||| Hilarious!
||
||| This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
||| referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
||| inferiors.
||
|| Not only is this fact, a theory, yes, but it is also something that
|| makes much sense.
||
|| Now, I have also noticed a similarity in the "accent" of some proud,
|| pure Scots and some Spanish pronounciations (from Spain)... I have
|| told some ...'you know, you do sound to me as a Spaniard speaking in
|| English, same RRR's, same manerisms in the speech, other things'...
|| of course, they never take too kindly to such comments, but they are
|| true.
||
|| There was a time when I wasn't that used to sounds from Scotland,
|| yet quite used to many Spanish accents, that I really thought they
|| were gallegos trying to speak English...'cause their English was
|| quite "strange" and they did sound like some Spaniards.
||
|| One might think some info like this could be a start, the
|| possibility of a change in their attitudes towards other cultures...
|| The English, I mean, but...man, that'd be impossible. King or Queen
|| and Empire...even in ruins. The pride goes on.
||
|| Oscar
||
Oh yes you pair of shitehawkes the British really look like Spaniard don't
they, how could we have been so stupid not to have noticed all these years.
We have so much in common like torturing bulls and donkey's, and all the
women in Britain dress in black and sit on their arse's all day don't they.
Also I hope you are a Spaniard giving us a lecture on Empire after the
misery you lot caused around the world with your genocide. It was for the
sake of humanity that we had to give you a good hiding and take your gold
off you.
However what goes around comes around I suppose as we are giving you all our
fucking hard earned money through that great gobshite the E.U. Don't bite
the hand that feeds you swarthy ignorant fuckweeds.
--
"A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six
months".
MD

[Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||]

RafaMinu wrote:
|| All these centuries fighting each other, and now it turns out we
|| share a common Neanderthal Ancestor...
||
|| Hey, how's it goin, bro?
|| Or should I call you cousin...?
||
You could stop top-posting for a start apeman, and then tell your fishermen
to fuck off out of the Irish Box.

You have bled us dry through the EU you spongers.

[William Black]

Post by RafaMinu
All these centuries fighting each other, and now it turns out we share
a common Neanderthal Ancestor...

I didn't think Homo Sapiens had any Neanderthal ancestors.

And then there's Mitochondrial Eve, we're all the children of one woman, ,
and she was black...

[ElGaucho]

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Oh yes you pair of shitehawkes the British really look like Spaniard don't
they, how could we have been so stupid not to have noticed all these years.

They do. But you have to be an observer, not part of the scenery, of course.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
We have so much in common like torturing bulls and donkey's, and all the
women in Britain dress in black and sit on their arse's all day don't they.

Not at all! Bulls are too big and risky. You guys reserve all the torturing
for those little animals, the wee, quite inoffensive...foxes, isn't it?

The proving of the brave youth, the "bloodying" ceremony, quite a feat, I
say!

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Also I hope you are a Spaniard giving us a lecture on Empire after the
misery you lot caused around the world with your genocide. It was for the
sake of humanity that we had to give you a good hiding and take your gold
off you.

Should we talk about genocides? You can't raise that issue, y'know?

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
However what goes around comes around I suppose as we are giving you all
our fucking hard earned money through that great gobshite the E.U. Don't
bite the hand that feeds you swarthy ignorant fuckweeds.

That swarthy part is not reserved only for the Spanish. Just open your
fucking eyes! And not only from bloody bastards, like you lot, but bastards
from unknown Spanish fathers, so many of yous!

Up your ass! Take'em nice 'n easy as usual, fuckface!

Oscar

[Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||]

ElGaucho wrote:
|| "Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in
|| message
||
||| Oh yes you pair of shitehawkes the British really look like
||| Spaniard don't they, how could we have been so stupid not to have
||| noticed all these years.
||
|| They do. But you have to be an observer, not part of the scenery, of
|| course.
||
||| We have so much in common like torturing bulls and donkey's, and
||| all the women in Britain dress in black and sit on their arse's all
||| day don't they.
||
|| Not at all! Bulls are too big and risky. You guys reserve all the
|| torturing for those little animals, the wee, quite
|| inoffensive...foxes, isn't it?
||
|| The proving of the brave youth, the "bloodying" ceremony, quite a
|| feat, I say!
||
||| Also I hope you are a Spaniard giving us a lecture on Empire after
||| the misery you lot caused around the world with your genocide. It
||| was for the sake of humanity that we had to give you a good hiding
||| and take your gold off you.
||
|| Should we talk about genocides? You can't raise that issue, y'know?
||
||| However what goes around comes around I suppose as we are giving
||| you all our fucking hard earned money through that great gobshite
||| the E.U. Don't bite the hand that feeds you swarthy ignorant
||| fuckweeds.
||
|| That swarthy part is not reserved only for the Spanish. Just open
|| your fucking eyes! And not only from bloody bastards, like you lot,
|| but bastards from unknown Spanish fathers, so many of yous!
||
|| Up your ass! Take'em nice 'n easy as usual, fuckface!
||
|| Oscar

Up your own ass like your ancestors took it off the North Africans, fuck off
from here it's bad enough we have to subsidize your economy and hence your
standard of living at our expense. One bomb on a train and your left wing
Government shit their trousers and pulled your soldiers out of Iraq. Do you
know how many bombs were dropped on this country by your former friends.

Thank God for Effingham, Drake and Frobisher who kicked your black arseholes
all the way around the coast.

I dare you to take Gibraltar and while I am on the subject how can you claim
Gib when you have Cueta ?

[neoholistic]

x-no-archive: yes

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Up your own ass like your ancestors took it off the North Africans, fuck off
from here it's bad enough we have to subsidize your economy and hence your
standard of living at our expense. One bomb on a train and your left wing
Government shit their trousers and pulled your soldiers out of Iraq. Do you

This isn't even meaningful enough to be wrong, so I won't try to
correct it.
You're rather confused about lots of things, that I'll say.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
know how many bombs were dropped on this country by your former friends.

Who's friends, Franco's, they bombed us too.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Thank God for Effingham, Drake and Frobisher who kicked your black arseholes
all the way around the coast.

We have been kicking each other's arses for centuries, man, it's been
going both
ways and you have been in the recieving end pretty much as often as we
have.
As for 'black', and her I'll assume you have a problem with that, I'm
afraid you're a
lot 'blacker' than we are, unless London isn't part of Britain anymore.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
I dare you to take Gibraltar and while I am on the subject how can you claim
Gib when you have Cueta ?

_We_ DON'T claim Gibraltar, _some_ of us do (big difference here), and
there's
no comparison with Ceuta, because there was no Morocco when we founded
that city, only wilderness. As far as I'm concerned, they can keep it,
and Melilla
too, anyway. For free. They might install there tomorrow morning.

BTW, our complaints about Gibraltar mostly derive from it being a
centre of
smuggling and money laundering. Other than that, most of us don't care
at all.

As for 'taking Gib', that would be tremendously stupid, but you
couldn't do a
thing to stop us if we were stupid enough to do that - quite simply,
you don't
have the military power any more (unless the USAnians came to your
rescue).

Don't forget that none of us is an empire, nor a military power, any
more - not
us, and not you either. The Royal Navy is more powerful than the
Spanish
navy in absolute terms, but /not/ enough to win against us. And besides
I
don't think either country is affluent enough to sustain a war against
the
other for any extended period soooo, no, not going to happen, sorry to
burst
your bubble, welcome to reality.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
--
"A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six
months".
MD

[ElGaucho]

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Up your own ass like your ancestors took it off the North Africans, fuck
off from here it's bad enough we have to subsidize your economy and hence
your standard of living at our expense.

Tsk Tsk tsk... Bad beginnings, asswipe. My ancentors...mine gave yours such
a beating you had to leave with your tail between your legs.. But, that was
in the deep South of SA, where I was born. By the way, you didn't notice
I'm writing to you from BC in Canada. I KNOW your sort, fuckface.

*One bomb on a train and your left wing

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Government shit their trousers and pulled your soldiers out of Iraq. Do you

Which government stopped being part of the horrible mess you made in Iraq,
you bloody ignorant fool!

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
You know how many bombs were dropped on this country by your former
friends.

Evidently, not enough...somehow you came afloat like the smelly turd you
are.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Thank God for Effingham, Drake and Frobisher who kicked your black
arseholes all the way around the coast.

Blah blah blah....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
I dare you to take Gibraltar and while I am on the subject how can you
claim Gib when you have Cueta ?

With all the shit I hear that's going on in Gibraltar, I doubt the Spanish
government would want to touch that smelly place. I hear you think it's
yours, but really, that's the place your betters created to hide and launder
their money. Money they steal from you lot, every single day.

Ha!
Oscar

[Earle Horton]

Maybe this does demonstrate some common ancestry. Tsk, tsk.

Saludos,

Earle

Post by ElGaucho

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Up your own ass like your ancestors took it off the North Africans, fuck
off from here it's bad enough we have to subsidize your economy and hence
your standard of living at our expense.

Tsk Tsk tsk... Bad beginnings, asswipe. My ancentors...mine gave yours such
a beating you had to leave with your tail between your legs.. But, that was
in the deep South of SA, where I was born. By the way, you didn't notice
I'm writing to you from BC in Canada. I KNOW your sort, fuckface.
*One bomb on a train and your left wing

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Government shit their trousers and pulled your soldiers out of Iraq. Do you

Which government stopped being part of the horrible mess you made in Iraq,
you bloody ignorant fool!

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
You know how many bombs were dropped on this country by your former
friends.

Evidently, not enough...somehow you came afloat like the smelly turd you
are.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Thank God for Effingham, Drake and Frobisher who kicked your black
arseholes all the way around the coast.

Blah blah blah....Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
I dare you to take Gibraltar and while I am on the subject how can you
claim Gib when you have Cueta ?

With all the shit I hear that's going on in Gibraltar, I doubt the Spanish
government would want to touch that smelly place. I hear you think it's
yours, but really, that's the place your betters created to hide and launder
their money. Money they steal from you lot, every single day.
Ha!
Oscar

[Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||]

ElGaucho wrote:
|| "Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in
|| message
||
||| Up your own ass like your ancestors took it off the North Africans,
||| fuck off from here it's bad enough we have to subsidize your
||| economy and hence your standard of living at our expense.
||
|| Tsk Tsk tsk... Bad beginnings, asswipe. My ancentors...mine gave
|| yours such a beating you had to leave with your tail between your
|| legs.. But, that was in the deep South of SA, where I was born. By
|| the way, you didn't notice I'm writing to you from BC in Canada. I
|| KNOW your sort, fuckface.
||
|| *One bomb on a train and your left wing
||| Government shit their trousers and pulled your soldiers out of
||| Iraq. Do you
||
|| Which government stopped being part of the horrible mess you made in
|| Iraq, you bloody ignorant fool!
||
I could not care less where you are posting from shitehawk, take your
effluent back from whence it came and shove it up your black arsehole.

[ElGaucho]

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
I could not care less where you are posting from shitehawk, take your
effluent back from whence it came and shove it up your black arsehole.

Far be it from me any trying to keep you from your delightful pastime,
faggot cockgobbler. Enjoy life!

[Gurriato]

Opiniones sobre nuestros descendientes ingleses expresadas por algunos
guiris famosos:


-Thirty millions, mostly fools.
(Thomas Carlyle, Scottish historian and essayist when asked what was the
population of England)

-The English: Sheep with a nasty side.
(Cyril Connolly, quoted by Gavin Ewart in Quarto, 1980)

-Curse the blasted, jelly-boned swines, the slimy, the belly-wriggling
invertebrates, the miserable sodding rotters, the flaming sods, the
snivelling, dribbling, palsied, pulseless lot that make up England. They've
got white of egg in their veins, and their spunk is that watery it's a
marvel they can breed. They can nothing but frogspawn the gibberers. Why,
why, why, was I born an Englishman!
(D. H. Lawrence, British novelist)

-England is, after all, the land where children were beaten, wives and
babies bashed, football hooligans crunch, and Miss Whip and Miss Lash ply
their trade as nowhere else in the western world. Despite our belief that we
are a 'gentle' people we have, in reality, a cruel and callous streak in our
sweet natures, reinforced by a decadent puritan strain which makes some of
us believe that suffering, whether useful or not, is a fit scourge to the
wanton soul.
(Colin Maclnnes, British writer, in New Society, 1976)

-An Englishman does everything on principle: he fights you on patriotic
principles; he robs you on business principles; he enslaves you on imperial
principles.
(George Bernard Shaw, Irish playwright and critic, The Man of Destiny, 1898)

-The English talk loud and seem to care little for other people. This is
their characteristic, and a very brutal and barbarous distinction it is.
(Sydney Smith, British clergyman, essayist and wit )

Saludos
LA BESTIA IBERA

[Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||]

Gurriato wrote:
|| Opiniones sobre nuestros descendientes ingleses expresadas por
|| algunos guiris famosos:
||
||
|| -Thirty millions, mostly fools.
|| (Thomas Carlyle, Scottish historian and essayist when asked what was
|| the population of England)
||
|| -The English: Sheep with a nasty side.
|| (Cyril Connolly, quoted by Gavin Ewart in Quarto, 1980)
||
|| -Curse the blasted, jelly-boned swines, the slimy, the
|| belly-wriggling invertebrates, the miserable sodding rotters, the
|| flaming sods, the snivelling, dribbling, palsied, pulseless lot that
|| make up England. They've got white of egg in their veins, and their
|| spunk is that watery it's a marvel they can breed. They can nothing
|| but frogspawn the gibberers. Why, why, why, was I born an Englishman!
|| (D. H. Lawrence, British novelist)
||
|| -England is, after all, the land where children were beaten, wives
|| and babies bashed, football hooligans crunch, and Miss Whip and Miss
|| Lash ply their trade as nowhere else in the western world. Despite
|| our belief that we are a 'gentle' people we have, in reality, a
|| cruel and callous streak in our sweet natures, reinforced by a
|| decadent puritan strain which makes some of us believe that
|| suffering, whether useful or not, is a fit scourge to the wanton
|| soul. (Colin Maclnnes, British writer, in New Society, 1976)
||
|| -An Englishman does everything on principle: he fights you on
|| patriotic principles; he robs you on business principles; he
|| enslaves you on imperial principles.
|| (George Bernard Shaw, Irish playwright and critic, The Man of
|| Destiny, 1898)
||
|| -The English talk loud and seem to care little for other people.
|| This is their characteristic, and a very brutal and barbarous
|| distinction it is. (Sydney Smith, British clergyman, essayist and
|| wit )
||
|| Saludos
|| LA BESTIA IBERA

You fucking idiot this shows your lack of intelligence and all things
British. We invented irony and the ability to make fun of ourselves, that is
our way and something you are not able to comprehend.

[Al-Fah'or bin Güemes]

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
You fucking idiot this shows your lack of intelligence and all things
British. We invented irony and the ability to make fun of ourselves, that
is our way and something you are not able to comprehend.

Ain't you the perfect shining example...

PINKO

[Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||]

Al-Fah'or bin Güemes wrote:
|| "Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in
|| message news:u0H_g.33048$***@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
|||
||| You fucking idiot this shows your lack of intelligence and all
||| things British. We invented irony and the ability to make fun of
||| ourselves, that is our way and something you are not able to
||| comprehend.
|||
||
|| Ain't you the perfect shining example...
||
|| PINKO

YELLOW

[decaballeria]

Dear Dog,

First of all, I do not care if you are mad; but certainly you are wrong.

There is not irony in those opinions, but truth.

By the way, you do not invented irony; rather you learned it from the Norman
culture; that is from French people.


Salud y curvas, Paco

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
|| Opiniones sobre nuestros descendientes ingleses expresadas por
||
||
|| -Thirty millions, mostly fools.
|| (Thomas Carlyle, Scottish historian and essayist when asked what was
|| the population of England)
||
|| -The English: Sheep with a nasty side.
|| (Cyril Connolly, quoted by Gavin Ewart in Quarto, 1980)
||
|| -Curse the blasted, jelly-boned swines, the slimy, the
|| belly-wriggling invertebrates, the miserable sodding rotters, the
|| flaming sods, the snivelling, dribbling, palsied, pulseless lot that
|| make up England. They've got white of egg in their veins, and their
|| spunk is that watery it's a marvel they can breed. They can nothing
|| but frogspawn the gibberers. Why, why, why, was I born an Englishman!
|| (D. H. Lawrence, British novelist)
||
|| -England is, after all, the land where children were beaten, wives
|| and babies bashed, football hooligans crunch, and Miss Whip and Miss
|| Lash ply their trade as nowhere else in the western world. Despite
|| our belief that we are a 'gentle' people we have, in reality, a
|| cruel and callous streak in our sweet natures, reinforced by a
|| decadent puritan strain which makes some of us believe that
|| suffering, whether useful or not, is a fit scourge to the wanton
|| soul. (Colin Maclnnes, British writer, in New Society, 1976)
||
|| -An Englishman does everything on principle: he fights you on
|| patriotic principles; he robs you on business principles; he
|| enslaves you on imperial principles.
|| (George Bernard Shaw, Irish playwright and critic, The Man of
|| Destiny, 1898)
||
|| -The English talk loud and seem to care little for other people.
|| This is their characteristic, and a very brutal and barbarous
|| distinction it is. (Sydney Smith, British clergyman, essayist and
|| wit )
||
|| Saludos
|| LA BESTIA IBERA
You fucking idiot this shows your lack of intelligence and all things
British. We invented irony and the ability to make fun of ourselves, that is
our way and something you are not able to comprehend.
--
"A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six
months".
MD

[neoholistic]

x-no-archive: yes

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Oh yes you pair of shitehawkes the British really look like Spaniard don't
they, how could we have been so stupid not to have noticed all these years.

Blonder and less tanned, but yes, pretty similar, indeed. The Stones,
for example,
look exactly as though they came from a Madrid working class
neighbourhood
(ask any Spaniard).

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
We have so much in common like torturing bulls and donkey's, and all the

Who's torturing donkeys!??? Please, don't hesitate to inform the
authorities
if you see anyone doing that. They're an endangered and protected
species.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
women in Britain dress in black and sit on their arse's all day don't they.

No, and that they have in common with the Spanish women, who don't
either.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Also I hope you are a Spaniard giving us a lecture on Empire after the
misery you lot caused around the world with your genocide.

He's no Spaniard, and there's no genocide. Latin America continues to
be
majority 'Indian' (Native American), unlike most everywhere else where
the
British settled, where the local populations were massacrated and put
into reservations.

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
It was for the
sake of humanity that we had to give you a good hiding and take your gold
off you.

You never did that. A couple (important) victories versus quite a lot
of (also
important) losses against us... that your school system seems not fond
of
educating your people about. It's all in the books still, anyway (ours
and yours).

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
However what goes around comes around I suppose as we are giving you all our
fucking hard earned money through that great gobshite the E.U. Don't bite
the hand that feeds you swarthy ignorant fuckweeds.

You aren't doing that, and as for swarthy, take a look at the British
expats (those
who don't hide from the sun, that is).

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
--
"A horse a horse my kingdom for a horse, I haven't had a winner in six
months".
MD

[s***@my-deja.com]

...... the British really look like Spaniard don't
they, how could we have been so stupid not to have noticed all these years.
We have so much in common like torturing bulls and donkey's, and all the
women in Britain dress in black and sit on their arse's all day don't they.

Actually shop and office staff in Valencia DO look like people from
the north of Scotland. Women in Britain dressed in black no longer
exist, but they have done so in living memory. The report comes
as no great surprise.

[Gurriato]

Post by s***@my-deja.com

...... the British really look like Spaniard don't
they, how could we have been so stupid not to have noticed all these years.
We have so much in common like torturing bulls and donkey's, and all the
women in Britain dress in black and sit on their arse's all day don't they.

Actually shop and office staff in Valencia DO look like people from
the north of Scotland.

¡Pobres valencianos!

Un católico fanático cristiano, bastante aficionado a empinar el codo y
procedente de esa gran institución penitenciaria que es Australia, hizo una
peli sobre los escoceses y los muestra como unos hombres con faldas y con
bastante maquillaje de color azul, que enseñan el culo cada vez que
discuten en una taberna.

Saludos
LA BESTIA IBERA
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DR. JOHNSON: Sir, it is a very vile country.
MR. S: Well, sir, God made it.
DR. JOHNSON: Certainly he did, but we must remember that He made it for
Scotchmen. Comparisons are odious, Mr. S, but God made Hell.
(Dr Samuel Johnson, A journey to the "Western Islands of Scotland)

[The Highlander]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:14:25 +0100, "D. Spencer Hines"
<***@hotmail.com> wrote:

<snipped unwanted foreign chitchat>


SEANN EACHDRAIDH LEÒDHAIS
le Iain N. MacLeoid

'S anns 's a' bhliadhna 1098, tha chiad iomradh againn air eilean
Leòdhais ann an eachdraidh, mar eadar-dhealaichte bho an h-Innse-Ghall
eile. 'S a' bhliadhna sin chiosnaich rìgh Manus á Lochlunn na
h-Eileanan an Iar cho buileach 's gu 'm bheil bàrd na cùirte rioghail
aig an àm ag ràdh "gu'n robh deatach an léir-sgrios a' ruigheachd na
nèamhan os cionn Ljódhhús."

'S e so an t-ainm Lochlunnach a bh' air Leòdhas aig an àm, agus tha 'n
t-Ollamh Macbheathain de 'n bheachd gu 'm bheil an t-aon chiall aig
Lódóse 's an t-Suain. Cha' n' eil luchd-mineachaidh ro-chòirdte
timchioll air brìgh an fhocail, agus mar sin 's co math dhuinn gun
deasbaireachd a dheanamh mu 'n chùis.

Tha beul-aithis Eirionnach ag ràdh gu 'n robh Conall Cearnach, sonn
treun à Ullaidh a' toigail cìse an Leòdhas 's a' bhliadhna h-aon, agus
na 'm biodh dearbhadh. cinnteach air sin 's iomadh linn a chuireadh e
ri aois eachdraidh an eilein.

Cha' n' eil teagamh nach ann á Eirinn a thainig na Gàidheil do na
h-Eileanan an Iar timchioll air an t-seathamh linn. 'N uair a thainig
na Ceilteich do dh' Alba ann an Aois an Iaruinn fhuair iad dà threubh
romhpa na Lubrachain agus treubh na h-umha. 'S e daoine beaga dubha le
cinn fhada bha 's na Lubrachain.

'S iad a thog na dùin sheòmrachail agus mullaichean cruinn orra, agus
faodaidh sinn a chreidsinn gur h-ann do Aois na Cloiche 'bhuineadh iad
a reir na sgile leis an do thog iad na seòmraichean sin. A stigh air
criochaibh na treibh sin thainig treubh na h-umha, daoine móra,
garbha, le aodainn fhada, cholgach, cinn mhóra chruinne agus failt
bàn.

Tha luchd-rannsachaidh a' deanamh a mach gur h-iad a thog na
Tursaichean ainmeil a th' aig Callanis agus àitean eile. Tha cuid de
'n bheachd gu 'm b' e teampuill no tighean-aoraidh a bha anns na
Tursaichean so, agus gu 'n robh na righrean treuna a thuiteadh 's a'
bhlàr air an tòrradh annta, agus iobairtean de gach seorsa air an
toirt suas mar onair dhoibh. Tha fhios againn gu 'n d' fhuaradh
cisteachan-cloiche iomadh uair aig na Tursaichean so, agus cnàmhan
ainmhidhean agus dhaoine a nochdadh gur dòcha gu 'n robh 'n treubh
borb ud, ag iòbradh eadhon an gineal airson sàsachaidh a thoirt do
agartasan an diathan.

Cha do dh' fhàg na Lochlunnaich móran de eachdraidh sgriobhte as an
déidh. Cha b' ann air sgriobhadh an eachdraidh a bha 'n aire ach air
mortadh agus marbhadh agus togail cheach, ach a dh' aindeoin sin uile
dh' fhàg iad an làrach anns gach ceum de 'n eilean anns an d' imich
iad, oir 's gann gu 'm bheil cnoc, abhuinn, òb no caol an Eilean an
Fhraoich nach do bhaist iad 'n an cànain mu 'n d' fhàg iad. Tha
ceithir ainmean Lochlunnach an Leòdhas mu choinneamh gach ainm
Gàidhealach no Ceilteach a th' ann. Tha cuid eadhon a' deanamh a mach
gur h-ann an déidh ionnsaidh nan Lochlunnach a dh' eirich am beagan
ainmean Gàidhlig a th' ann, agus le sin tha e coltach, nach mór nach
do sguabadh gu buileach na Ceiltich á Leòdhas tràth 's an naodhamh
linn.

'S ann a thogail chreach a thainig na Lochlunnaich an toiseach do na
h-Eileanan an Iar, ach 'n uair a bha 'n gnothuch a' còrdadh riutha cho
math bha sgaoth a' fuireach bliadhna 'n déidh bliadhna.

Mu dheireadh an deicheamh linn tha iomradh againn air Maccus no
Macharailt a' chiad rìgh a chuir na Lochlunnaich os cionn nan Eileanan
an Iar, a bha uile fo 'n spòig bho Arcamh a dh' ionasuidh an Eilean
Mhanainneich. Tha sin a' sealltuinn dhuinn cho mór agus cho
éifeachdach 's a bha cumhachd nan Lochlunnach air na h-Eileanan sin.

An déidh bhàis an rìgh sin, chuir rìgh Lochluinn uachdar, an thairis
air na h-Eileanan, ach mharbhadh an Leòdhas e am feadh 's a bha e
togail chreach an sin. 'S ann an uair sin a rinn rìgh Manus suas
inntinn nach fhàgadh e tigh tioram gun chiosnachadh 's na h-Eileanan
an Iar. Thainig e le cabhlach threun 's a' bhliadhna 1098, agus rinn e
sgrios iomlan air Leòdhas, Uidhist, an t-Eilean Sgiathanach, Tiriodh,
Muile agus Ile, ach choinnich a nàmhaid fhéin ri Manus an Eirinn, agus
mharbhadh e.

Cha do dh' eirich cumhachd nan Lochlunnach na b' àirde na sin, ged
nach do dh' fhàg iad na h-Eileanan gus am b' éigin dhoibh an déidh
blàir na Leargaidh Ghallda 's a' bhliadhna 1263. Rinn leir-sgrios
Mhanuis làrach mór air cridheachan nan eileanach fad iomadh bliadhna.
Rachadh iad anns an fhaochaig na 'n cluinneadh iad eadhon 'ainm.


Tha cuid de bhàrdachd Oisein a' luaidh air a' churaidh sin, agus tha
'm far-ainm a bh' air "Manus a' ghlùin-rùisgte" a nochadh gu 'n robh e
cleachdadh an fhèilidh agus a' bhreacain, 's dòcha mar chuimhneachan
orra-san a chuir e gu bàs.

Chaidh cùisean air aghaidh mar sin gu carraideach - rìgh an déidh rìgh
a' tighinn thairis à Lochlunn, agus a togail leis gach ni nach robh
ro-thròm no ro-theith. agus a' fagail fhàrdaichean 'n gual 'n a
dhéidh. Rinn Alasdair a Trì, rìgh Alba, suas inntinn gu 'n cuireadh
esan stad air brùidealachd nan Lochlunnach, agus gu 'n ciosnaicheadh e
na h-Eileanan an Iar dha fhéin.

'S a bhliadhna 1263, chuir e tairgse-còmhraig gu Haco rìgh Lochluinn,
bha Haco ro-dheònach, agus ann a' mios no dhà thainig e le trì chiad
bìrlinn agus dh' acraich e faisg air an Leargaidh Ghallda.

Tha fhios againn uile mar thachair, rinn stoirmean agus doinninn na
Lùnasdail an gnothuch air cabhlach Haco, bhriseadh iad 'n am mìle clàr
air cladaichean a' Chuain an Iar, thug e fhéin suas an deò 'n ath
bhliadha, agus cheannaich rìgh Alasdair na h-Eileanan an Iar bho làimh
Lochluinn 's a' bhliadhna 1266, an déidh dhoibh a bhi fo 'n cìs fad
chóig ciad bliadhna.

Cha 'n e mhàin gu 'n do dh' fhàg na Lochlunnaich an làrach air ainmean
nan àitheachan an Leòdhas, ach dh' fhàg iad an sliochd 'n an déidh
cuideachd. Tha 'n t-Ollamh Beddoes, a rinn móran rannsachaidh air
freumh gach tréibh ag ràdh mar so:

"Coinnichidh tri seorsachan dhaoine ruinn an Leòdhas. Tha na
Lochlunnaich ann, daoine móra, foghainteach, fínealta, le falt
buidhe-bhàn agus sùilean gorma. Tha muinntir Nis gu léir de'n treubh
so.

"Tha daoine beaga tiugh ann, le srón chutach, falt dubh, agus air
uairibh sùilean dubha, agus tha 'n àite-còmhnuidh am Barabhas, agus
aig an treas seorsa tha pearsachan calma, gun a bhi ro àrd, aodann
fada, mórchnàmhach, sròn fhada charach bhiorach, sùilean liatha agus
falt dubh. 'S e mo bheachd gur h-e siol nan Lochlunnach a tha fhathast
timchioll Steòrnabhaigh ged a bhàthadh an cànain leis a' Ghàidhlig bho
chionn iomadh ann".

Tha sinn de 'n bheachd gu 'n deanadh cùnntas an Ollaimh so mu
threubhan Leòdhais an gnothuch glé mhath airson aoin sam bith de na
h-Eileanan an Iar, ged is dòcha nach 'eil an aon uibhir de fhuil nan
Lochlunnach 's gach aon diubh.

'N uair a rinn righrean Albainn agus Lochluinn an cùmhnant ceannaich
airson na h-Eileanan an Iar, thugadh a dha roghainn do gach
Lochlunnach a bha ann an seilbh air còir sam bith 's na h-Elleanan an
uair sinn - dh' fhaodadh e dol dhachaidh gu Lochlunn, agus a chuid
uile 'thoirt leis, air neo fuireach far an robh e agus tighinn gu
sìtheil fo riaghladh Rìgh Alasdair, le maitheanas saor airson
ar-a-mach sam bith a rinn e roimhe sin.

Thugadh Leòdhas agus an t-Eilean Sgiathanach do Uilleam, Iarla Rois a
Dhà, agus chum esan iad fo chìs do Rìgh Alba.

Bha Eilean Leòdhais ré chiad gu leth bliadhna 'na dhéidh sin fo
riaghlidh Iarlan Rois. Cha 'n fhaic sinn a' bheag sam bith ann an
eachdraidh timchioll air na bliadhnaibh sin. Bha Ghàidhlig a'
buadhachadh gach bliadhna, bha 'n eaglais a nis Ceilteach, agus thug
sin adhartas nach bu bheag do 'n chànain.

Bha Iarlan Rois glé chumhachdach. Bha 'n daingneach laidir ann am
Baile-dhuthaich 's bha móran iochdaran aca, mar bha clann 'Icleoid
Leòdhais 's na h-Earradh, a bha 'n ùghdarras air Asaint bho Thuath
agus Glinn-eilge.

An déidh sin 'n uair a bha Tighearnais Leòdhais ag atharrachadh bho
Chlann an t-Sagairt gu Clann Dhomhnuill, Stiubhartaich, Clann an
Fhleisdeir, agus a ris gu Clann Dhomhnuill, b' e Clann 'Icleoid a bha
'n an cinn-cinnidh air an Eilean. Faodaidh sinn eadhon a ràdh gur
h-ann an Leòdhas a chinnich Clann 'Icleoid. Tha móran de 'n bbeachd
gur h-ann á Lochlunn a thainig iad an toiseach.

Tha'n eachdraidh chumanta aca 'g ràdh gu 'n d' thainig an cinneadh bho
dhithis bhràthrean, Torcull agus Tormod, Clann Leoid, a bha beò 's an
treas linn diag. B' e Leod so mac Olaibh Dhuibh rìgh an Eilein
Mhanainneich agus nan Eileanan eile, a phòs Nicrailt Armuinn leis an
d'fhuair a Dùnbheagain mar thochradh, far am bheil ceann-cinnidh
Chloinn 'Icleoid aig an latha 'n diugh.

Bha Leod 'n a uachdaran air Leòdhas agus air an Eilean Sgiathanach,
agus 'n uair a chaochail e roinneadh 'oighreachd eadar a dhithis mhac.
Fhuair Torcull Leòdhas, agus Tormod an t-Eilean Sgiathanach agus mar
sin 's e clann an dithis bhràithrean a tha 'n Clann 'Icleoid Leòdhais,
siol Thorcuill, agus Clann 'Icleoid an Eilein Sgiathanaich, siol
Thormoid.

Fhuair Ruairidh Macleoid Eilean Leòdhais 'n a làmhan fhéin an uair a
thainig cumhachd Tighearna nan Eileanan gu neo-ni, agus bha
'theaghlach a' riaghladh an eilein ciad bliadhna. An deireadh a latha
bha e ann an sith ris an righ, oir tha cunntas againn an eachdraidh,
gu 'n chuir e làmh ri cùmhnant a thug an rìgh do Iarla
Earra-ghàidheil.

An uair a chaochail e, ghabh a mhac Torcull 'àite, agus anns a'
bhliadhna sin fhéin fhuair e 'n a bhàillidh air Tròtairnis agus
Dùnthuilm 's an Eilean Sgiathanach. Phòs e nighean Iarla
Earra-ghàidheil agus mar sin rinn e taobh mór ri Domhnull Dubh, mac
peathar na mnà aige, agus oighre Tighearna nan Eileanan.

Bha Domhnull Dubh 'n a phriosanach fad a bheatha gus an dotheich e do
Leòdhas 's a' bhliadhna l5Ol. Cbaidh priomh-chinnidhean nan eilean fo
bhratach Dhomhnuill, agus thòisich an cogadh mar b' àbhaist. Rinn na
naimhdean ionnsaidh air caisteal Steòrnabhaigh 's a' bhliadhna 1506,
agus ghabh iad sealbh air, agus cha 'n fhaic sinn an còrr mu Thorcull
an eachdraidh.

Fhuair a bhràthair Calum, cùmhnant sgriobhte air Leòdhas cóig bliadhna
'n déidh sin, leis an d' aisigeadh dha, cha 'n a mhàin Leòdhas, ach
Bhatairnis, Asaint bho Thuath, agus a' Choigeach, le caisteal
Steòrnabhaigh mar phriomh-lùchairt.

Tha ùghdarras Chloinn 'Icleoid air Leòdhas a nise tighinn gu crich,
agus mar a ghabhas e creidsinn, cha b' ann gun mhort no gun mhilleadh
a leig iad às an gréim.

Phòs Ruairidh Macleoid, Triath Leòdhais, Seonaid. nighean Iain
Mhicchoinnich, Chinntàile. B' e Torcull Con nach a mhac 'oighre, ach
tha e coltach nach robh e gabhail ris mar oighre dligheach, agus mar
sin rinn e oighre do Thorcull Dubh, mac an treas mnà, nighean Mhic
'Illeathain Dhubbairt. Thòisich an sin cogadh agus aimhreit eadar
Torcull Conanach agus Torcull Dubh, agus fad iomadh bliadhna bha
Leòdhas ann an staid bhrònach agus bhuaireasach.

'S a' bhliadhna 1568, ghlacadh Ruairidh le Torcull Conanach, agus rinn
e priosanach dheth ré cheithir bliadhna, Thug a sin e air beulaobh
comhairle na rioghachd, agus thug e air gu 'n gheall e gu 'n deanadh e
oighre dheth. Rinn Ruairidh sin ach tharruing e air ais a ris a chionn
gu 'm b' ann bho phéin a' bhàis a thugadh air a dheanamh. Ma bha
teaghlach riamh roinnte 'n an aghaidh fhéin b' e sud iad.

Bha cóignear ghillean aig Ruairidh Macleoid. Bha triuir dhiubh air
taobh an athar, agus lean dithis dhiubh ri 'n leth bhràthair, Torcull
Conanach. B' e Niall Macleoid a' fear bu chumhachdaiche dhiubh so. Bha
esan an toiseach le 'athair, ach an déidh làimhe thaobh e ri Torcull
Dubh, agus mur biodh treubhantas Neill tha sinn a' creidsinn nach robh
e comasach do' Thorcull sealbh a chumail air Leòdhas cho fada.

Chaidh Torcull Conanach do 'n Choigeich, agus shuidhich e e fhéin 'n a
uachdaran air sin, air dha cuideachadh fhaighinn bho Chloinn
Mhicchoinnich, Chinntàile. Timchioll air a' bhliadhna 1595, thug
Torcull Dubh ionnsaidh air a bhràthair, an Conanach ann an
Strath-choigeach, agus cha d' fhàg e mart no each, duine no bean no
leanabh, aig Clann 'Icchoinnich Lochbhraoin nach do mharbh e.

Airson an ar-a-mach so, bha'n tòir air Torcull Dubh, agus air do
bhràthair gréim fhaighinn air, chuir e gu bàs e fhéin agus a
luchd-leanmhuinn, 's a' bhliadhna 1597. Bha mhac Torcull, le
cuideachadh Neill, 'n a uachdaran air Leòdhas an déidh sin.

Aig an àm so, chaochail dithis mhac Thorcuill Chonanaich. B' e a
nighean mar sin a b' oighre. Phòs ise bràthair Mhicchoinnich,
Tighearna Chinntàile, agus le sin thug an Conanach suas gach còir a
bh' aige 'n Leòdhas do Thriath Chinntàile. 'S ann air an dòigh sin a
fhuair Clann Mhicchoinnich còir air Leòdhas, ged nach do chuir iad an
còir an cleachdadh gus a' bhliadhna 1610.

'S a' bhliadhna 1596, thainig òrdugh bho 'n Chrùn gu 'm feumadh gach
ceann-cinnidh Gàidhealach an còir dhligheach air an oighreachdan
thoirt am follais don Rìgh, air neo gu 'n d' thoirte uatha iad. Cha d'
rinn Clann 'Icleoid Leòdhais so, agus mar sin-thugadh an t-eilean
uatha, agus thugadh e do na Fiofaich.

Thug na h-uachdarain ùra so ionnsaidh gharbh air an eilean, agus fad
iomadh bliadhna chath iad fhéin agus na Leodaich gu cruaidh, agus bha
brùidealachd thar tomhais 'g a dheanamh air duine agus ainmhidh. Chuir
Niall Macleoid 'n an aghaidh, agus a dh' aindeoin gach ionnsaidh
chumhachdaich a rinneadh air, cha d' thug e suas a dhaingneach. Bha
Triath Chinntàile cuideachd a' cath an aghaidh nam Fiofach, a chionn
gu 'n robh shùil fhéin air an eilean.

Mu dheireadh thall, 'n uair nach robh 'chùis a' dol leis na Fiofaich
cho math 's bu mhath leotha, ghabh iad blas a' chrogain do Leòdhas,
agus bha iad glé thoilichte 'n còir air an eilean a' reic do
Mhacchoinnich, Triath Chinntàile, agus mar sin 's a' bhliadhna 1610,
chaidh an Ridire Ruairidh Macchoinnich, bràthair Triath Chinntàile do
Leòdhas le arm cumhachdach.

Bha móran de threun-fhir nan Leodach air a mort 's a' chath roimhe so,
agus mar sin cha robh iad ach lag fann airson coinneachadh ris na
Sàileich chumhachdach, ach bha ar caraid Niall Macleoid cho treun 's a
bha e riamh, agus rinn e suas inntinn nach leigeadh e as a ghréim air
Leòdhas fhads' a bhiodh an t-anam ann.

'N uair a dh' fhairtlich gach gnothuch air, rinn e a dhaingneach
làidir an eilean Bhearnaraidh, far an do chuir e cruinn stòras mór de
bhiadh agus de dheoch, agus fad thri bliadhna thug e dùbhlan do
chloinn Mhicchoinnich.

Mu dheireadh thad ghoid Ruairidh Chinntàile móran de na mnathan agus
de 'n cloinn a bh' aig Niall am Bearnmaraidh, agus chuir e iad aig
muir tràigh air eilean Bheireiseidh agus bhòidich e gu 'm fàgadh e an
sin iad gus am bàite iad mur géilleadh Niall agus a chuideachd. airson
beatha nam mnathan agus na cloinne shàbhaladh ghéill Niall, agus leis
a' gheilleadh sin thug Clann 'Icleoid suas an còir. gu bràth air
eilean Leòdhais.

Fhuair Niall Macleoid a shaorsa, agus ghabh e fasgadh aig an Ridire
Ruairidh Macleoid, Dhunbheagain, Dh' fhiach Ruairidh ri thoirt an
làthair an rìgh airson maitheanais fhaotainn, ach air a shlighe gu
Sasuinn, fhuaradh a mach gu 'n robh Niall 'n a chuideachd agus
ghlacadh e, airson a thoirt suas do 'n Chrùn. Chrochadh Niall treun am
baile Dhuneideann 's a' bhliadhna 1613. Cha robh aon de'n chinneadh an
Leòdhas riamh a bu treuna, 's a bu dìlse na Niall còir agus tha deagh
chuimhne air an Leòdhas fhathast.

'S e linn charraideach, bhuaireasach fhuileachdach a bha 's na ciad
bliadhna air an robh sinn a' bruidheann. Bha na Leodaich a' cogadh an
aghaidh an naimhdean, agus timchioll an teallaichean fhéin cha robh
sìth no sonas a' riaghladh. 'N uair a ghabh Clann Mhicchoinnich
Chinntàile sealbh air Leòdhas 's a' bhliadhna 1610, fhuair iad gu 'n
robh spiorad agus cumhachd an t-soisgeil marbh.

Chuir iad mar sin 's a' bhliadhna sin fhéin an t-Urr. Fearchar
Macrath, do Leòdhas, airson searmonachaidh an t-soisgeil. Tha e
coltach gu 'm b' e duine iomchuidh a bha so, agus fo theagasg thainig
an t-eilean air aghaidh ann an eolas an Sgriobtuir.

Ged a chaidh Clann 'Icleoid Leòdhais a chur fo chìs le Macchoinnich
Shi-phort, bha iad 'n an sgolb 's an fheoil dha fad iomadh bliadhna.
Gach uair a rachadh airm a' Chrùin do Leòdhas, bhitheadh Clann
'Icleoid a' dol fo 'm bratach an aghaidh Shi-phort, agus bha so a'
cumail suas spiorad na ceannairc a' meagg nan eileanach.

Bha Iarla Shi-phort dìleas do chùis Thearlaich a Dhà an còmhnuidh,
agus cheannaich a chuid fearainn agus a shluagh air sin. Chan 'eil
móran sam bith an eachdraidh mu chùisean Leòdhais bho 1644 gu 1660,
ach tha 'n cùnntas beag a leanas air a thoirt dhuinn leis an Ollamh
Macbheathain, agus tha e coltach gur h-ann an seann leabhar-latha dh'
fhàg neach eigin a fhuair e fhéin e.

"Air an deicheamh latha de 'n Lunasdail 1653, ghabh Còirneal Cobbet le
arm Chromwell, sealbh air an tairbeart (peninsula) air am bheil baile
Steòrnabhaigh air a thogail an diugh, agus air do gach inneal airm a
bha 's an àite bhi air an toirt suas dha, dhaingnich e 'n rudha, agus
dh' fhàg e Maidsear Crispe 'n a uachdaran air Leòdhas le ceithir
reiseamaidean shaighdeirean, dà ghunna-mhór agus ceithir
chroinn-tabhaill.

Air an là mu dheireadh de 'n Fhaoilteach 1654, chuireadh sgeul neònach
do Dhuneideann, gu 'n d' thug Shi-phort le ceithir chiad diag fear,
ionnsaidh air daingneach Steòrnabhaigh agus gun do ghlac e am baile.
Ach air a' cheathramh latha diag de 'n Ghearran 1654, chaidh an sgeul
a dhaingneachadh mar so.

Chaidh Tormod Macleoid air tìr aig Loch Seil, an Leòdhas, le cóig ciad
saighdear, agus air dha bhi am feall - fholach ré cheithir là, an
àit'-éigin, thainig e as am faireachadh air ar saighdeirean a bha air
taobh a muigh na daingnich an Steòrnabhagh, agus mharbh e dusan
dhiubh: chuir reiseamaid a bha 's an daingneach ruaig orra so, thug
iad cobhair do chàch, chuir iad am, biodh do 'n daingneach agus loisg
iad na tighean.

Aig deireadh a' Mhàrt thainig naidheachd gu Dailché gu 'n do mharbh na
saighdeirean a bha 's an daingneach an dream a lean bratach Shi-phort,
chath na Leodaich air aobh an airm againne, agus rinn na sgaraidhean
sin móran dolaidh anns na criochaibh."

Sin ann am beagan bhriathran, neo-iomlan agus cearbach cunntas goirid
air cuid de sheann eachdraidh eilein Leòdhais. 'N uair a smaoinicheas
sinn air cor buaireasach an eilein an uair ud - cor a bha fior mu na
Ghàidhealtachd air fad aig an àm, bu chòir dhuinn a bhi taingeil do 'n
Fhreasdal gu bheil ar beatha-ne ann an linn as sitheile agus as
soirbheachaile.

'S anns 's a' bhliadhna 1098, tha chiad iomradh againn air Eilean
Leòdhais ann an eachdraidh, mar eadar-dhealaichte bho an h-Innse-Ghall
eile.


The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[ElGaucho]

Post by The Highlander
SEANN EACHDRAIDH LEÒDHAIS
le Iain N. MacLeoid
'S anns 's a' bhliadhna 1098, tha chiad iomradh againn air eilean
Leòdhais ann an eachdraidh, mar eadar-dhealaichte bho an h-Innse-Ghall
eile. 'S a' bhliadhna sin chiosnaich rìgh Manus á Lochlunn na
h-Eileanan an Iar cho buileach 's gu 'm bheil bàrd na cùirte rioghail
aig an àm ag ràdh "gu'n robh deatach an léir-sgrios a' ruigheachd na
nèamhan os cionn Ljódhhús."

Ifrinn! Gaelic, mo charaid? (what a gowk!)

Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis

And don't forget Culloden Field..

Slainte mhath y saludos,
Oscar

[Gurriato]

Post by ElGaucho
Ifrinn! Gaelic, mo charaid? (what a gowk!)
Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis
And don't forget Culloden Field..
Slainte mhath y saludos,

Pog mo thón, Gauchito.

LA BESTIA

[ElGaucho]

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho
Ifrinn! Gaelic, mo charaid? (what a gowk!)
Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis
And don't forget Culloden Field..
Slainte mhath y saludos,

Pog mo thón, Gauchito.
LA BESTIA

Téigh trasna ort féin, Gurris, encanto.

EL BAGUAL

[Gurriato]

Post by ElGaucho

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho
Ifrinn! Gaelic, mo charaid? (what a gowk!)
Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis
And don't forget Culloden Field..
Slainte mhath y saludos,

Pog mo thón, Gauchito.
LA BESTIA

Téigh trasna ort féin, Gurris, encanto.

Díul mó bhad, preciosidad.

Y ahora en mandarín: Cao ni zu zong shi ba dai (que le den por el culo a 18
generaciones de tus antepasados)

LA BESTIA IBERA

[The Highlander]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:52:56 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho
Ifrinn! Gaelic, mo charaid? (what a gowk!)
Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis
And don't forget Culloden Field..
Slainte mhath y saludos,

Pog mo thón, Gauchito.
LA BESTIA

Téigh trasna ort féin, Gurris, encanto.

Díul mó bhad, preciosidad.
Y ahora en mandarín: Cao ni zu zong shi ba dai (que le den por el culo a 18
generaciones de tus antepasados)
LA BESTIA IBERA

Do us all a favour and get lost - míu yau leung-go si fat guai ni-su;
(dos maricones de playa aqui) o me cago en la tapa del organo y me
revuelco encima de la mierda! Me vale Madre!


The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[Gurriato]

Post by The Highlander
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 19:52:56 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho
Ifrinn! Gaelic, mo charaid? (what a gowk!)
Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis
And don't forget Culloden Field..
Slainte mhath y saludos,

Pog mo thón, Gauchito.
LA BESTIA

Téigh trasna ort féin, Gurris, encanto.

Díul mó bhad, preciosidad.
Y ahora en mandarín: Cao ni zu zong shi ba dai (que le den por el culo a 18
generaciones de tus antepasados)
LA BESTIA IBERA

Do us all a favour and get lost - míu yau leung-go si fat guai ni-su;
(dos maricones de playa aqui) o me cago en la tapa del organo y me
revuelco encima de la mierda! Me vale Madre!
Dùin do ghob, gille-tòin na Galla
The Highlander
Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[ElGaucho]

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho
Téigh trasna ort féin, Gurris, encanto.

Díul mó bhad, preciosidad.

Feisigh do thoin fein, bitseach.

Post by Gurriato
Y ahora en mandarín: Cao ni zu zong shi ba dai (que le den por el culo a
18 generaciones de tus antepasados)

So soly, no podel hablal mandalín. Pol igual, envial yo mismos caliñosos
deseos a todas tus viltuosas genelaciones antelioles, cuchicú.

EL BAGUAL RIOPLATENSE

[Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||]

ElGaucho wrote:
|| "Gurriato" <***@netnitco.net> wrote in message
||
|||| Téigh trasna ort féin, Gurris, encanto.
||
||| Díul mó bhad, preciosidad.
||
|| Feisigh do thoin fein, bitseach.
||
||| Y ahora en mandarín: Cao ni zu zong shi ba dai (que le den por el
||| culo a 18 generaciones de tus antepasados)
||
|| So soly, no podel hablal mandalín. Pol igual, envial yo mismos
|| caliñosos deseos a todas tus viltuosas genelaciones antelioles,
|| cuchicú.
||
|| EL BAGUAL RIOPLATENSE

Hey Gecko

You know the Uruguans and Argentinians are mocked in the Spanish speaking
world for their inability to speak Spanish properly don't you.

[The Highlander]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:34:29 GMT, "Mad Dog ||\(\(*/_*\)\)||"

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
||
|||| Téigh trasna ort féin, Gurris, encanto.
||
||| Díul mó bhad, preciosidad.
||
|| Feisigh do thoin fein, bitseach.
||
||| Y ahora en mandarín: Cao ni zu zong shi ba dai (que le den por el
||| culo a 18 generaciones de tus antepasados)
||
|| So soly, no podel hablal mandalín. Pol igual, envial yo mismos
|| caliñosos deseos a todas tus viltuosas genelaciones antelioles,
|| cuchicú.
||
|| EL BAGUAL RIOPLATENSE
Hey Gecko
You know the Uruguans and Argentinians are mocked in the Spanish speaking
world for their inability to speak Spanish properly don't you.

Their ancestors all came from Andalusia, so they use Andalusia's
pronunciations, like E'paña and Expaña for España.

Ellos son todos campesinos y gitanos - ¡como estos mestizos aquí -
quién no pueden hablar correctamente español!
(They are all peasants and gypsies - like these half-breeds here -
who can't speak Spanish properly!)

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[ElGaucho]

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Hey Gecko

Hi, fuckface!

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
You know the Uruguans and Argentinians are mocked in the Spanish speaking
world for their inability to speak Spanish properly don't you.

Naah. Don't you believe it for a moment. We all mock one another for the
way we say some things, but they are jokes for insiders only, nothing a
moron like you'd understand.

Nothing like the low-class English that marks your sort as servants, and
others as your masters. We don't believe in that master-servant system you
couldn't do without, asswipe.

C'mon, doggie, bring a cold one to this table, and be quick about it, you
old faggot!

And call me Master or Lord next time...as you call your betters. You're used
to doing just that, ain't you?
Oscar

[Mad Dog anti-re-cycling]

ElGaucho wrote:
|| "Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in
|| message
||
||| Hey Gecko
||
|| Hi, fuckface!
||
||| You know the Uruguans and Argentinians are mocked in the Spanish
||| speaking world for their inability to speak Spanish properly don't
||| you.
||
|| Naah. Don't you believe it for a moment. We all mock one another
|| for the way we say some things, but they are jokes for insiders
|| only, nothing a moron like you'd understand.
||
|| Nothing like the low-class English that marks your sort as servants,
|| and others as your masters. We don't believe in that master-servant
|| system you couldn't do without, asswipe.
||
|| C'mon, doggie, bring a cold one to this table, and be quick about
|| it, you old faggot!
||
|| And call me Master or Lord next time...as you call your betters.
|| You're used to doing just that, ain't you?
|| Oscar

People call me sir, though I will say you have a decent command of English,
it is a pity you have to clean swimming pools and sweep leaves to get by.

[Gurriato]

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
|| message
||
||| Hey Gecko
||
|| Hi, fuckface!
||
||| You know the Uruguans and Argentinians are mocked in the Spanish
||| speaking world for their inability to speak Spanish properly don't
||| you.
||
|| Naah. Don't you believe it for a moment. We all mock one another
|| for the way we say some things, but they are jokes for insiders
|| only, nothing a moron like you'd understand.
||
|| Nothing like the low-class English that marks your sort as servants,
|| and others as your masters. We don't believe in that master-servant
|| system you couldn't do without, asswipe.
||
|| C'mon, doggie, bring a cold one to this table, and be quick about
|| it, you old faggot!
||
|| And call me Master or Lord next time...as you call your betters.
|| You're used to doing just that, ain't you?
|| Oscar
People call me sir, though I will say you have a decent command of
English, it is a pity you have to clean swimming pools and sweep leaves to
get by.

In reality they call you "Sir Anthony", Cockney rhyming slang for "cunt";
named after Sir Anthony Blunt, well-known traitor. They also call you Sir
Cuntelot (or most often: hey you, pinche gabardo!)

A true SIR is a

Namber guan: A Mexican with a machete

Namber tu: A Chink with some nunchukas

Namber zri: A border guard.

Namber for: Anybody with an assault rifle

Typical answers to a "Sir" are:

Namber guan: No Sir, I wasn't laughing at your girlfriend's ass.

Namber tu: Yes Sir, that's a very attractive exhaust tip you have there.

Namber zri: No Sir, I'm not bringing any drugs into El Paso.

DON NICANOR TOCANDO EL TAMBOR

[ElGaucho]

Post by Mad Dog anti-re-cycling
People call me sir, though I will say you have a decent command of
English, it is a pity you have to clean swimming pools and sweep leaves to
get by.

Oh well, good people take note,
Mad Dog is no maggot.
Please do call him "sir",
a dick connoisseur,
along with "old faggot"!

Hehehe!!
You're sooo funny, good doggie! Good tricks!
Oscar

[Mad Dog anti-re-cycling]

ElGaucho wrote:
|| "Mad Dog anti-re-cycling" <***@hotmail.com> wrote in
|| message
||
||| People call me sir, though I will say you have a decent command of
||| English, it is a pity you have to clean swimming pools and sweep
||| leaves to get by.
||
|| Oh well, good people take note,
|| Mad Dog is no maggot.
|| Please do call him "sir",
|| a dick connoisseur,
|| along with "old faggot"!
||
|| Hehehe!!
|| You're sooo funny, good doggie! Good tricks!
|| Oscar

And once again you are talking of dicks, where do you hang around in a
"glory hole" off 42 Street.

[The Highlander]

Post by ElGaucho

Post by The Highlander
SEANN EACHDRAIDH LEÒDHAIS
le Iain N. MacLeoid
'S anns 's a' bhliadhna 1098, tha chiad iomradh againn air eilean
Leòdhais ann an eachdraidh, mar eadar-dhealaichte bho an h-Innse-Ghall
eile. 'S a' bhliadhna sin chiosnaich rìgh Manus á Lochlunn na
h-Eileanan an Iar cho buileach 's gu 'm bheil bàrd na cùirte rioghail
aig an àm ag ràdh "gu'n robh deatach an léir-sgrios a' ruigheachd na
nèamhan os cionn Ljódhhús."

Ifrinn! Gaelic, mo charaid? (what a gowk!)
Tempora mutantur nos et mutamur in illis
And don't forget Culloden Field..
Slainte mhath y saludos,
Oscar

Uell, uell, uell! Tha Gàidhlig agad-sa! Agus a'fuirich ann an B.C.!

Ca bheil thu - ann an Bhancuibhear no ait' eile?

"What a gowk!" is not the friendliest thing you could say about me.
You must be a big powerful fellow, full of piss and vinegar, to say
that to a Highlander who lives so close to you...

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[Gurriato]

Post by The Highlander
You must be a big powerful fellow, full of piss and vinegar, to say
that to a Highlander who lives so close to you...

And you must be an idiot from Brigadoon (and probably an alcoholic),
suckling vigorously from the udder of Englishness all the while protesting
that you are Scottish, really (cosa que a un servidor le importa un huevo
de pato, como podrás suponer)

I don't care about your Goddamned tribal gibberish. I am no Scotologist and
I believe that Gaelic speakers are perverts with post-ejaculatory sexual
obsession disorder.

Besides you suffer from the disease called "Scot scrotum", a medical
condition causing the scrotum to swell and turn purple (similar to a large
aubergene, eggplant or berenjena) which can be brought on by wearing a
kilt in january in the Highlands.

Que te folle un pez.

LA BESTIA IBERICA

[The Highlander]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:49:45 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
You must be a big powerful fellow, full of piss and vinegar, to say
that to a Highlander who lives so close to you...

And you must be an idiot from Brigadoon (and probably an alcoholic),
suckling vigorously from the udder of Englishness all the while protesting
that you are Scottish, really (cosa que a un servidor le importa un huevo
de pato, como podrás suponer)
I don't care about your Goddamned tribal gibberish. I am no Scotologist and
I believe that Gaelic speakers are perverts with post-ejaculatory sexual
obsession disorder.
Besides you suffer from the disease called "Scot scrotum", a medical
condition causing the scrotum to swell and turn purple (similar to a large
aubergene, eggplant or berenjena) which can be brought on by wearing a
kilt in january in the Highlands.
Que te folle un pez.
LA BESTIA IBERICA

I look forward to visiting you.


The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[Gurriato]

Post by The Highlander
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:49:45 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
You must be a big powerful fellow, full of piss and vinegar, to say
that to a Highlander who lives so close to you...

And you must be an idiot from Brigadoon (and probably an alcoholic),
suckling vigorously from the udder of Englishness all the while protesting
that you are Scottish, really (cosa que a un servidor le importa un huevo
de pato, como podrás suponer)
I don't care about your Goddamned tribal gibberish. I am no Scotologist and
I believe that Gaelic speakers are perverts with post-ejaculatory sexual
obsession disorder.
Besides you suffer from the disease called "Scot scrotum", a medical
condition causing the scrotum to swell and turn purple (similar to a large
aubergene, eggplant or berenjena) which can be brought on by wearing a
kilt in january in the Highlands.
Que te folle un pez.
LA BESTIA IBERICA

I look forward to visiting you.

No plis, ya tenemos bastantes guiris en España, inaf is inaf. La costa se
nos ha llenado de gamberros descamisados y borrachos de piel color camarón
cocido y tocados con sombreros mejicanos mercados en las barcelonesas
ramblas.

Lo primero y mas importante: Tu eres es un guiri; hazte a la idea y asúmelo.
Eres guiri total a pesar de que chapurreas esa incoherente jerigonza
celtoide. Los españoles olemos a los guiris a tres leguas, y a los guiris
celtas los tratamos igualito que a los guiris genéricos. Avisado quedas.

Lo malo de los guiris es que son como los elefantes y vuelven todos a morir
al lugar de origen. O quizás son como los salmones y las anguilas. Provienen
de España, como ha demsotrado el investigador ese de Oxford, y a España
vienen a morir. Ahora un porcentaje alto de la población costera de la
Península es de la modalidad geriátrica y pre-geriátrica, lo que en cierto
modo es de agradecer porque así se evitan los desagradabilísimos
juliganes guiris, las broncas discotequeras y las motos de tubarros
infernales.
Todos esos gerontoguiris vienen p'acá a jubilarse. Durante el año pasado
126.980 personas demandaron inmuebles vacacionales en España, de las que
alrededor de 60.000 fueron no residentes, lo que supone un incremento de la
demanda extranjera del 8,7%. Esta demanda es especialmente apreciable en las
nuevas promociones en zonas costeras, tanto en vivienda vacacional como en
primera vivienda. En cuanto a la motivación para comprar casa, alrededor de
las tres cuartas partes buscan una residencia permanente en España para
mudarse cuando alcancen la jubilación, mientras que un 13% busca un espacio
propio para sus vacaciones y un 12%, alquilarla o simplemente hacer una
inversión rentable.

Los ciudadanos ingleses encabezan, con un 52% del mercado, la demanda
extranjera, seguidos de lejos por los alemanes, con un 22% del total.

Ya hay más de medio millón de guiris viviendo en España y ahora sale este
capullo con que va a venir a visitarme. Seguramente ignora que moro en
Indianajuato.

Saludos

LA BESTIA IBERICA

[The Highlander]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:49:45 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
You must be a big powerful fellow, full of piss and vinegar, to say
that to a Highlander who lives so close to you...

And you must be an idiot from Brigadoon (and probably an alcoholic),
suckling vigorously from the udder of Englishness all the while protesting
that you are Scottish, really (cosa que a un servidor le importa un huevo
de pato, como podrás suponer)
I don't care about your Goddamned tribal gibberish. I am no Scotologist and
I believe that Gaelic speakers are perverts with post-ejaculatory sexual
obsession disorder.
Besides you suffer from the disease called "Scot scrotum", a medical
condition causing the scrotum to swell and turn purple (similar to a large
aubergene, eggplant or berenjena) which can be brought on by wearing a
kilt in january in the Highlands.
Que te folle un pez.
LA BESTIA IBERICA

What a charming interlude in my otherwise humdrum day.

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[Gurriato]

Post by The Highlander
What a charming interlude in my otherwise humdrum day.

I'm happy to hear it. It is said that all Scots have a sense of humour -
because it is free.

GURRIATEMBERG

[The Highlander]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:52 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
What a charming interlude in my otherwise humdrum day.

I'm happy to hear it. It is said that all Scots have a sense of humour -
because it is free.
GURRIATEMBERG

To be serious for a kmoment, what a shame that the Spanish managed to
colonize you, as had you been colonized by us Scots, you would be
living in a western style civilization and making lots of money, just
like Canada.

Mexico is a classic example; the richest part of North America, raped
and looted by the Conquistadores and the people left to this day under
the thumb of priests and Spanish-descended colonists.



The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[Earle Horton]

Post by The Highlander
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:52 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
What a charming interlude in my otherwise humdrum day.

I'm happy to hear it. It is said that all Scots have a sense of humour -
because it is free.
GURRIATEMBERG

To be serious for a kmoment, what a shame that the Spanish
managed to colonize you, as had you been colonized by us
Scots, you would be living in a western style civilization and
making lots of money, just like Canada.

Gurri claims to be Spanish. Gaucho lives in British Columbia. Paco is
posting from Houston. All of these fellows are "living in a western style
civilization and making lots of money", just like you and me.

Saludos,

Earle

[Gurriato]

Post by Earle Horton

Post by The Highlander
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:52 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
What a charming interlude in my otherwise humdrum day.

I'm happy to hear it. It is said that all Scots have a sense of humour -
because it is free.
GURRIATEMBERG

To be serious for a kmoment, what a shame that the Spanish
managed to colonize you, as had you been colonized by us
Scots, you would be living in a western style civilization and
making lots of money, just like Canada.

Gurri claims to be Spanish.

Claims?

I was born in a village next to the retirement place of the Emperor Charles
V, the Monastery of Yuste. This dude owned the whole World and went to
retire to my village because is the best place on the face of the Earth.

I am Spanish to the third power. El mes espanyol de tots els espanyols que
es fan i es desfan. Soy la españolidad andante, la rehostia de la
espagnolité.

Que lo sepasssss, gringo loco.

LE MARQUIS DE LA PATTE NOIRE

[The Highlander]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:00:28 -0600, "Earle Horton"

Post by Earle Horton

Post by The Highlander
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:52 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
What a charming interlude in my otherwise humdrum day.

I'm happy to hear it. It is said that all Scots have a sense of humour -
because it is free.
GURRIATEMBERG

To be serious for a kmoment, what a shame that the Spanish
managed to colonize you, as had you been colonized by us
Scots, you would be living in a western style civilization and
making lots of money, just like Canada.

Gurri claims to be Spanish. Gaucho lives in British Columbia. Paco is
posting from Houston. All of these fellows are "living in a western style
civilization and making lots of money", just like you and me.
Saludos,
Earle

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[The Highlander]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 21:00:28 -0600, "Earle Horton"

Post by Earle Horton

Post by The Highlander
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:52 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
What a charming interlude in my otherwise humdrum day.

I'm happy to hear it. It is said that all Scots have a sense of humour -
because it is free.
GURRIATEMBERG

To be serious for a kmoment, what a shame that the Spanish
managed to colonize you, as had you been colonized by us
Scots, you would be living in a western style civilization and
making lots of money, just like Canada.

Gurri claims to be Spanish. Gaucho lives in British Columbia. Paco is
posting from Houston. All of these fellows are "living in a western style
civilization and making lots of money", just like you and me.
Saludos,
Earle

I know about Gaucho. He and I are planning to get together so he and
his friends can beat me up. At least, that's the way Gaucho sees it.
Imagine having the nerve to challenge one of Vancouver's finest!

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[ElGaucho]

Post by The Highlander
I know about Gaucho. He and I are planning to get together so he and
his friends can beat me up. At least, that's the way Gaucho sees it.
Imagine having the nerve to challenge one of Vancouver's finest!

Now, that IS an insult for a Uruguayan born. That I should stoop and enlist
others to help me fight just a single man?!!! What an odious thought!! I
cringe! The outrage! The nerve of some people!

Or are you planning to come with a gang ?

While I can count them with the fingers of one hand, bring'em on. No
problem.
Oscar

[Gurriato]

Post by The Highlander
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:52 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
What a charming interlude in my otherwise humdrum day.

I'm happy to hear it. It is said that all Scots have a sense of humour -
because it is free.
GURRIATEMBERG

To be serious for a kmoment, what a shame that the Spanish managed to
colonize you, as had you been colonized by us Scots, you would be
living in a western style civilization and making lots of money, just
like Canada.
Mexico is a classic example; the richest part of North America, raped
and looted by the Conquistadores and the people left to this day under
the thumb of priests and Spanish-descended colonists.

True. No comparison with rich countries colonized by the British, such as
Bangladesh, Nigeria, Uganda...

LE MARQUIS DE LA PATTE NOIRE

[The Highlander]

On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 09:27:54 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:22:52 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by The Highlander
What a charming interlude in my otherwise humdrum day.

I'm happy to hear it. It is said that all Scots have a sense of humour -
because it is free.
GURRIATEMBERG

To be serious for a kmoment, what a shame that the Spanish managed to
colonize you, as had you been colonized by us Scots, you would be
living in a western style civilization and making lots of money, just
like Canada.
Mexico is a classic example; the richest part of North America, raped
and looted by the Conquistadores and the people left to this day under
the thumb of priests and Spanish-descended colonists.

True. No comparison with rich countries colonized by the British, such as
Bangladesh, Nigeria, Uganda...
LE MARQUIS DE LA PATTE NOIRE

True indeed. We always left our colonies in excellent shape, as Mr.
Gandhi noted - and also Habib Bourghiba, late President of Tunisia,
when I was a guest in his home in Monastir.

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[ElGaucho]

Post by The Highlander
Uell, uell, uell! Tha Gàidhlig agad-sa! Agus a'fuirich ann an B.C.!
Ca bheil thu - ann an Bhancuibhear no ait' eile?

Vancouver, mo charaid. And don't tax me with Gaelic, I learned a bit playing
soccer with fellows from the Isles, many moons ago.

Post by The Highlander
"What a gowk!" is not the friendliest thing you could say about me.
You must be a big powerful fellow, full of piss and vinegar, to say
that to a Highlander who lives so close to you...

I know. Just wanted to know if it still carried the same punch :-)
Oscar

[The Highlander]

Post by ElGaucho

Post by The Highlander
Uell, uell, uell! Tha Gàidhlig agad-sa! Agus a'fuirich ann an B.C.!
Ca bheil thu - ann an Bhancuibhear no ait' eile?

Vancouver, mo charaid. And don't tax me with Gaelic, I learned a bit playing
soccer with fellows from the Isles, many moons ago.

Post by The Highlander
"What a gowk!" is not the friendliest thing you could say about me.
You must be a big powerful fellow, full of piss and vinegar, to say
that to a Highlander who lives so close to you...

I know. Just wanted to know if it still carried the same punch :-)
Oscar

I don't care to be characterized as 'it' when querying my ability to
take out a Latino armed with a mere shiv.

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[ElGaucho]

Post by The Highlander

Post by ElGaucho
I know. Just wanted to know if it still carried the same punch :-)
Oscar

I don't care to be characterized as 'it' when querying my ability to
take out a Latino armed with a mere shiv.

Characterized as "it"? Your ability to "take out" a Latino armed with what?
a shiv? Okay-dockey....

Weel, chum... I did try to be affable. Yes, sir. But, I assure you that it's
not my style to query anybody's ability if I detect they are thinking in
terms of taking out ?? anybody.

Hell! I don't take out people, I'm not even armed.... but giving them a
bloody nose, or making them lose a few teeth, that always gladdens and warms
me heart, boyo!

Would you like to try?? We're are not that far away, after all (are we??
Main and 40th. here There's always an empty field behind a school or
something.

Let's go, Mac. Loser buys the beer.
Oscar

[Gurriato]

Post by ElGaucho
Let's go, Mac. Loser buys the beer.

No matter if we win or lose this game, we will still be winners, because
when this McIdiot waken up tomorrow he'll still be UN PUTO ESCOCES and we
won't.

GURRIATEMBERG

[Earle Horton]

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho
Let's go, Mac. Loser buys the beer.

No matter if we win or lose this game, we will still be winners,
because when this McIdiot waken up tomorrow he'll still be
UN PUTO ESCOCES and we won't.

According to what that Bryan Sykes fellow says, you and he are the
next best thing to cousins.

"wakes up tomorrow"

Saludos,

Earle

[Gurriato]

Post by Earle Horton

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho
Let's go, Mac. Loser buys the beer.

No matter if we win or lose this game, we will still be winners,
because when this McIdiot waken up tomorrow he'll still be
UN PUTO ESCOCES and we won't.

According to what that Bryan Sykes fellow says, you and he are the
next best thing to cousins.

Sí, pero yo no tengo caspa en los zapatos como él ni me alimento con gachas
de avena.

GURRITEMBERG

[The Highlander]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 16:20:24 -0500, "Gurriato"

Post by Gurriato

Post by ElGaucho
Let's go, Mac. Loser buys the beer.

No matter if we win or lose this game, we will still be winners, because
when this McIdiot waken up tomorrow he'll still be UN PUTO ESCOCES and we
won't.
GURRIATEMBERG

Jesus God, if you're already talking about losing, you'd better sit
down and think over what you're getting yourselves into. I take this
sort of thing very seriously; Ive had far too many heroes have a go at
me ever to fool around. I'd like you to note out that I'm still here,
alive, well and fit.

As for my teeth, they were kicked out years ago, so that's no big
deal. I'll even demonstrate the famous Glasgow Kiss for you!


The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[ElGaucho]

Post by The Highlander
As for my teeth, they were kicked out years ago, so that's no big
deal. I'll even demonstrate the famous Glasgow Kiss for you!

D'ye think I don't know it? I ken it well, friend. Got it a few times,
gave it a few times. Remember I said I used to play soccer (and a bit of
Australian rules when I first came to Canada)... I know you guys very well.
But if you want a kiss, well, yes, of course, anytime, anyplace..Yesterday
if I could....not if I have to travel, of course. Let's see where I can
make you stick that long tongue of yours. Gaelic and all.

As I said, let's go, Mac. Loser buys the beer.

Oscar

[ElGaucho]

Post by The Highlander
As for my teeth, they were kicked out years ago, so that's no big
deal. I'll even demonstrate the famous Glasgow Kiss for you!

No need to demonstrate how hard-heided you are. I ken the salute verra well,
mo charaid. Got it a few times, gave a few times -remember I said I used to
play soccer..and Austr rules with fellows like you?? But if you want a
'kiss', sure thing!! Right now, later, tomorrow.. anytime, anyplace..no
travelling, of course. A kiss, and let's see where that long tongue of
yours ends up. Gaelic and all.

Let's go Mac, loser buys the beer.
Oscar

[Begoluna]

Post by ElGaucho
Let's go Mac, loser buys the beer.

¿Pee cerveza? :-D

=.=.=.=.=
Begorda
=.=.=.=

[ElGaucho]

Post by Begoluna

Post by ElGaucho
Let's go Mac, loser buys the beer.

¿Pee cerveza? :-D

Now, that is recycled beer that one leaves for others... There are some who
like that type of beer, you know? I think I said just that in one of my
famous poems...Don't remember now.

Y leí que caminastes ayer? OK. muy bien. Mirá que habemos varios que te
tenemos "cortita" y no mientas, que eso no vale, tamo?

Oscar

[Begoluna]

Post by ElGaucho

Post by Begoluna

Post by ElGaucho
Let's go Mac, loser buys the beer.

¿Pee cerveza? :-D

Now, that is recycled beer that one leaves for others... There are

¿Es better to be "pissed off" o "pissed on"?? :-D

Post by ElGaucho
Y leí que caminastes ayer? OK. muy bien. Mirá que habemos varios que
te tenemos "cortita" y no mientas, que eso no vale, tamo?

I went to SuperTarget... all the way, round trip!! ¡Hurra!! No pain, no
gain--but my butt still looks muy grande. :-D

Seventy-five more pounds (no inglesas) to go!!

=.=.=.==
Begorda
=.=.=.=.

[Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||]

ElGaucho wrote:
|| "The Highlander" <***@shaw.ca> wrote in message
||
|||| I know. Just wanted to know if it still carried the same punch :-)
|||| Oscar
||
||| I don't care to be characterized as 'it' when querying my ability to
||| take out a Latino armed with a mere shiv.
||
|| Characterized as "it"? Your ability to "take out" a Latino armed
|| with what? a shiv? Okay-dockey....
||
|| Weel, chum... I did try to be affable. Yes, sir. But, I assure you
|| that it's not my style to query anybody's ability if I detect they
|| are thinking in terms of taking out ?? anybody.
||
|| Hell! I don't take out people, I'm not even armed.... but giving
|| them a bloody nose, or making them lose a few teeth, that always
|| gladdens and warms me heart, boyo!
||
|| Would you like to try?? We're are not that far away, after all
|| (are we?? Main and 40th. here There's always an empty field behind a
|| school or something.
||
|| Let's go, Mac. Loser buys the beer.
|| Oscar

Hey Gecko you a linguist translate this from the most commonly spoken
language in Uruguay.

Per piacere, quanto
|| vecchie sono le vostre sorelle? Lasci qualcun'altro del vostro
|| villaggio uso il computer, non dimenticar di guardare le capre.

[Begoluna]

MD

¿Eres chihuahua o pitbull?? :-)

=.=
RN
=.=

[ElGaucho]

Post by Mad Dog ||((*/_*))||
Hey Gecko you a linguist translate this from the most commonly spoken
language in Uruguay.
Per piacere, quanto
|| vecchie sono le vostre sorelle? Lasci qualcun'altro del vostro
|| villaggio uso il computer, non dimenticar di guardare le capre.

OK, doggie. Do you have a sister? Is she so skillful to give head as you
are? All Mad Dogs are faggots who practice pedophelia. All Faggot Dogs who
don't practice pedo, get their kicks getting butt-fucked by goats.

I think that's more or less a pretty good translations.

Call again....in 100 years.

Oscar

[The Highlander]

Post by ElGaucho

Post by The Highlander

Post by ElGaucho
I know. Just wanted to know if it still carried the same punch :-)
Oscar

I don't care to be characterized as 'it' when querying my ability to
take out a Latino armed with a mere shiv.

Characterized as "it"? Your ability to "take out" a Latino armed with what?
a shiv? Okay-dockey....
Weel, chum... I did try to be affable. Yes, sir. But, I assure you that it's
not my style to query anybody's ability if I detect they are thinking in
terms of taking out ?? anybody.
Hell! I don't take out people, I'm not even armed.... but giving them a
bloody nose, or making them lose a few teeth, that always gladdens and warms
me heart, boyo!
Would you like to try?? We're are not that far away, after all (are we??
Main and 40th. here There's always an empty field behind a school or
something.
Let's go, Mac. Loser buys the beer.
Oscar

Not in our culture he doesn't, the winner calls an ambulance and
leaves before the cops arrive. And as for a bloody nose or a few teeth
missing - in Scotland men fight with knives - in fact the government
just passed a law there forbidding people to buy swords as that seems
to be the weapon of choice these days - I agree, it's a bit too much.





The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[Gurriato]

Post by The Highlander
Not in our culture he doesn't, the winner calls an ambulance and
leaves before the cops arrive. And as for a bloody nose or a few teeth
missing - in Scotland men fight with knives - in fact the government
just passed a law there forbidding people to buy swords as that seems
to be the weapon of choice these days - I agree, it's a bit too much.

El Gaucho fight with the "facón" ( from the English "Fuck on")

Be careful no te dejé mostrando el sebo de un revés.

LE MARQUIS DE LA PATTE NOIRE

[ElGaucho]

Post by The Highlander
Not in our culture he doesn't, the winner calls an ambulance and
leaves before the cops arrive. And as for a bloody nose or a few teeth
missing - in Scotland men fight with knives - in fact the government
just passed a law there forbidding people to buy swords as that seems
to be the weapon of choice these days - I agree, it's a bit too much.

Well, that shows how backwards yous is. In Uruguay a fight is a nothing,
provided there's no dead people left. A knife fight is a more serious thing,
of course, but I would be ashamed of calling myself Uruguayan if I dinna
know how to fight with a knife as well. I also have traditions, mo charaid,
and I'm not one to shame them.

Broadswords couldn't be those in Scotland, could it? They were banned many
moons ago.

Oscar

[Gurriato]

Post by The Highlander

Post by ElGaucho

Post by The Highlander
Uell, uell, uell! Tha Gàidhlig agad-sa! Agus a'fuirich ann an B.C.!
Ca bheil thu - ann an Bhancuibhear no ait' eile?

Vancouver, mo charaid. And don't tax me with Gaelic, I learned a bit playing
soccer with fellows from the Isles, many moons ago.

Post by The Highlander
"What a gowk!" is not the friendliest thing you could say about me.
You must be a big powerful fellow, full of piss and vinegar, to say
that to a Highlander who lives so close to you...

I know. Just wanted to know if it still carried the same punch :-)
Oscar

I don't care to be characterized as 'it' when querying my ability to
take out a Latino armed with a mere shiv.

Did you know this limerick?

An Uruguayan Gaucho named Bruno
Said sex is one thing I do know
Women are fine
And sheep are divine
But llamas are numero uno!

GURRIATO

[Momphert]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

Very wrong of them to do that, I am sure.

But we are talking here about events that took place 6000 years ago.
Interesting but with no bearing at all on the present.

[dwilcox]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!

And it looks like most Yanks will soon be mexican..

[Doug McDonald]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.
The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.

You really should follow the Rootsweb mailing list
genealogy-dna.

They, the accumulated people on that list, are THE authority
on European DNA migration pattern interpretation, NOT Bryan
Sykes, nor any other academic. Especially not Bryan Sykes.

Sykes's interpretation is exceedingly controversial. In
particular, its writing predates the discovery of several
important new SNP markers inside R1b, especially the "S"
series.

Doug McDonald

[ray o'hara]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH
--------------------------------------------------------
"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

the celts of yore and the spanish/mediterranean peoples of today are not
the same. todays spaniard are decended from visigoths.
the gothic invasions into europe eliminated a great many of the original
celtic population on the mainland, although pockets in france{brittany} and
spain{galacias} did survive.

once again hiney you are wrong.

[Bryn]

Post by ray o'hara

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH
--------------------------------------------------------
"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.

the celts of yore and the spanish/mediterranean peoples of today are not
the same. todays spaniard are decended from visigoths.
the gothic invasions into europe eliminated a great many of the original
celtic population on the mainland, although pockets in france{brittany} and
spain{galacias} did survive.
once again hiney you are wrong.

My "Y" chromosome tells a very different story...

[Tiglath]

Post by ray o'hara
the celts of yore and the spanish/mediterranean peoples of today are not
the same. todays spaniard are decended from visigoths.
the gothic invasions into europe eliminated a great many of the original
celtic population on the mainland, although pockets in france{brittany} and
spain{galacias} did survive.
once again hiney you are wrong.

You don't know what you are talking about.

To suggest that the Visigoth replaced the Celtiberians and only a few
pockets remained in France and Northwestern Spain and follow such
suggesting by telling other people that are wrong, richly deserves a
thrashing.

Althought the Visigoths were the ruling elite they were numerically
inferior to the rest of the population. I've heard ratios from 7/1 7
to 20/1, for different periods.

"There were no more than 300,000 Germanic people in Spain, which had a
population of 4 million, and their overall influence on Spanish history
is generally seen as minimal."

http://www.unr.edu/cla/fll/bevia/SPAN221/photocopies2.pdf

It seems, however, that none of the historical groups, including the
Visigoths and the Celts, is genetically more preponderant in Spain that
the Iberians (haplogroup R1b), the earliest paleolithic group that
populated the Iberian peninsula c. 30,000 BC. They are the people who
migrated to Britain mentioned in the report, . The Celts arrived in
the Iberian Peninsula in the early first millenium BC, and formed the
group known as the Celtiberians.

[J Antero]

Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH
--------------------------------------------------------
"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.
The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.
People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."
Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.
Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.
Deeeelightful! -- DSH
The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.
These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.
"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.
"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."
Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.
Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

[The Highlander]

Post by J Antero
Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
"Most Holy Father and Lord, we know and from the chronicles and books
of the ancients we find that among other famous nations our own, the
Scots, has been graced with widespread renown. They journeyed from
Greater Scythia by way of the Tyrrhenian Sea and the Pillars of
Hercules, and dwelt for a long course of time in Spain among the most
savage tribes, but nowhere could they be subdued by any race, however
barbarous. Thence they came, twelve hundred years after the people of
Israel crossed the Red Sea, to their home in the west where they still
live today. The Britons they first drove out, the Picts they utterly
destroyed, and, even though very often assailed by the Norwegians, the
Danes and the English, they took possession of that home with many
victories and untold efforts; and, as the historians of old time bear
witness, they have held it free of all bondage ever since. In their
kingdom there have reigned one hundred and thirteen kings of their own
royal stock, the line unbroken a single foreigner."
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Given your own distaste for the English, why would you seize on the
work of some Englishmen to make a lie of your own claimed ancestry? Or
did ego prompt you as usual to leap into print without pausing to
consider the consequences?

Please act instantly to remove your unwanted presence from
soc.culture.scottish, Señor Hinez.

¡Aquí no habla español mexicano!

Post by J Antero

Post by D. Spencer Hines
--------------------------------------------------------

<foolish fantasies snipped>

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[Michael W Cook]

Post by The Highlander

Post by J Antero
Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

David Spencer Hines he was christened, but for some reason he changed it
half-way through his career in the US Navy to D Spencer Hines.

He's never really explained that one.

His father was Admiral Wellington T Hines, WWII hero and pioneer of the
early US Carrier based flight operations.

As you have gathered, like many a great man the son usually fails to live up
to expectations, and wee David was no exception to the rule.

Things started well for him, he was working in Intelligence but on reaching
the rank of Commander he threw one tantrum too many. He then found himself
being hoofed out of Intel as soon as the paperwork could be sorted in
Washington, and dumped for the rest of his career in the Housing Office at
Pearl Harbor.

I jest you not.

He was and is a disgrace to his family name, the Hines of Bowling Green
Kentucky. Early settlers the word is that they originally ran a Saloon Bar,
or Whore House to you and me.

Do a search headed with D. Spencer Hines.

Other key words:

Red Headed Barbarian
South Seas Nautical Jester
Misawa

All will be revealed on this Gollum-like creature called Hines, who has
plagued Usernet for the last 10 years.

By the way, he will never reply when challenged, a typical coward.

[The Highlander]

On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:16:12 +0100, Michael W Cook

Post by Michael W Cook

Post by The Highlander

Post by J Antero
Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

David Spencer Hines he was christened, but for some reason he changed it
half-way through his career in the US Navy to D Spencer Hines.
He's never really explained that one.
His father was Admiral Wellington T Hines, WWII hero and pioneer of the
early US Carrier based flight operations.
As you have gathered, like many a great man the son usually fails to live up
to expectations, and wee David was no exception to the rule.
Things started well for him, he was working in Intelligence but on reaching
the rank of Commander he threw one tantrum too many. He then found himself
being hoofed out of Intel as soon as the paperwork could be sorted in
Washington, and dumped for the rest of his career in the Housing Office at
Pearl Harbor.
I jest you not.
He was and is a disgrace to his family name, the Hines of Bowling Green
Kentucky. Early settlers the word is that they originally ran a Saloon Bar,
or Whore House to you and me.
Do a search headed with D. Spencer Hines.
Red Headed Barbarian
South Seas Nautical Jester
Misawa
All will be revealed on this Gollum-like creature called Hines, who has
plagued Usernet for the last 10 years.
By the way, he will never reply when challenged, a typical coward.

Thank you for the information - we'll put it to good use!

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[Michael W Cook]

Post by The Highlander
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:16:12 +0100, Michael W Cook

Post by Michael W Cook

Post by The Highlander

Post by J Antero
Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

David Spencer Hines he was christened, but for some reason he changed it
half-way through his career in the US Navy to D Spencer Hines.
He's never really explained that one.
His father was Admiral Wellington T Hines, WWII hero and pioneer of the
early US Carrier based flight operations.
As you have gathered, like many a great man the son usually fails to live up
to expectations, and wee David was no exception to the rule.
Things started well for him, he was working in Intelligence but on reaching
the rank of Commander he threw one tantrum too many. He then found himself
being hoofed out of Intel as soon as the paperwork could be sorted in
Washington, and dumped for the rest of his career in the Housing Office at
Pearl Harbor.
I jest you not.
He was and is a disgrace to his family name, the Hines of Bowling Green
Kentucky. Early settlers the word is that they originally ran a Saloon Bar,
or Whore House to you and me.
Do a search headed with D. Spencer Hines.
Red Headed Barbarian
South Seas Nautical Jester
Misawa
All will be revealed on this Gollum-like creature called Hines, who has
plagued Usernet for the last 10 years.
By the way, he will never reply when challenged, a typical coward.

Thank you for the information - we'll put it to good use!
The Highlander

He tends to go all quiet when challenged on his not so illustrious Naval
Career, but it wasn't always like this.

Before his grand fall from grace was discovered, he was one of the biggest
arm-chair Generals you could ever envisage, a drunk one at that - Boasting
on his experiences of combat, you know the sort, a Milk Dud Warrior if ever
there was one.

Then one day he muttered the immortal words:

"If you ever found out what I did (in the Navy) then I would have to kill
you, or the CIA or MI6 would do it for me"

Hilarious

What a Wanker.

After a little searching and a few well placed posts to US Navy web sites,
it didn't take long before people came crawling out of the woodwork to dump
shit on him, and his career we discovered was very much different to the one
he tried to sell us.

Do the searches, use the info well and as often as you like.

"Red Headed Barbarian" and "South Seas Nautical Jester" being two of my
favourites used to describe him.

Born with a silver spoon in his mouth and with an education at Yale,
everything he has done in his life has turned to shit. He has been living
off his Naval pension for the last 10 years or so because he is basically
unemployable.

Death awaits Mr Hines, the world of Usenet will cheer when it happens.

[The Highlander]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 13:41:15 +0100, Michael W Cook

Post by Michael W Cook

Post by The Highlander
On Sat, 21 Oct 2006 23:16:12 +0100, Michael W Cook

Post by Michael W Cook

Post by The Highlander

Post by J Antero
Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it? I'm related to that family but a
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

David Spencer Hines he was christened, but for some reason he changed it
half-way through his career in the US Navy to D Spencer Hines.
He's never really explained that one.
His father was Admiral Wellington T Hines, WWII hero and pioneer of the
early US Carrier based flight operations.
As you have gathered, like many a great man the son usually fails to live up
to expectations, and wee David was no exception to the rule.
Things started well for him, he was working in Intelligence but on reaching
the rank of Commander he threw one tantrum too many. He then found himself
being hoofed out of Intel as soon as the paperwork could be sorted in
Washington, and dumped for the rest of his career in the Housing Office at
Pearl Harbor.
I jest you not.
He was and is a disgrace to his family name, the Hines of Bowling Green
Kentucky. Early settlers the word is that they originally ran a Saloon Bar,
or Whore House to you and me.
Do a search headed with D. Spencer Hines.
Red Headed Barbarian
South Seas Nautical Jester
Misawa
All will be revealed on this Gollum-like creature called Hines, who has
plagued Usernet for the last 10 years.
By the way, he will never reply when challenged, a typical coward.

Thank you for the information - we'll put it to good use!
The Highlander

He tends to go all quiet when challenged on his not so illustrious Naval
Career, but it wasn't always like this.
Before his grand fall from grace was discovered, he was one of the biggest
arm-chair Generals you could ever envisage, a drunk one at that - Boasting
on his experiences of combat, you know the sort, a Milk Dud Warrior if ever
there was one.
"If you ever found out what I did (in the Navy) then I would have to kill
you, or the CIA or MI6 would do it for me"
Hilarious
What a Wanker.
After a little searching and a few well placed posts to US Navy web sites,
it didn't take long before people came crawling out of the woodwork to dump
shit on him, and his career we discovered was very much different to the one
he tried to sell us.
Do the searches, use the info well and as often as you like.
"Red Headed Barbarian" and "South Seas Nautical Jester" being two of my
favourites used to describe him.
Born with a silver spoon in his mouth and with an education at Yale,
everything he has done in his life has turned to shit. He has been living
off his Naval pension for the last 10 years or so because he is basically
unemployable.
Death awaits Mr Hines, the world of Usenet will cheer when it happens.

What an amazing revelation! Are you really suggesting that he didn't
damage his lungs permanently by diving repeatedly into the oil-slicked
waters to rescue sailors trapped in the USS Arizona, for which he was
awarded the Navy Cross by a grateful nation?

So much for "Blood 'n Guts" Hines!

I shall now retire to rip up my signed photograph of "The Hero of
Pearl Harbor" and flush it down the toilet bowl.

"Housing Officer Hines" just doesn't have the same ring to it...


The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[J Antero]

Post by The Highlander

Post by J Antero
Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it?

Ask Hines.

[The Highlander]

Post by J Antero

Post by The Highlander

Post by J Antero
Probably a group of celts who were run off from the main group due to bad
culinary traits.
Oy! fish an chips mahite?

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH

It also puts paid to your nonsenical claim to be related to the
Marquis of Montrose, doesn't it?

Ask Hines.

I did. Typically. there's an embarrassed silence...

Can you imagine the descendant of a Eurotrash Kentucky whorehouse pimp
should swagger round Usenet giving himself such airs and graces?

Why isn't he in Iraq, doing his duty? I know why; it's because he's
been passed over so many times for promotion that not even the
sanitation squad wants him sullying their good name!

D. Spencer Hines - America's answer to the Turd Gap!

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[ray o'hara]

"The Highlander" <***@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
it? I'm related to that family but a

Post by The Highlander
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

actually i could believe hines is related to you.
you are both boastful net-loons who make fantasic and unsubstantiated
claim{lies} while never offering a shred of proof.

[The Highlander]

Post by The Highlander
it? I'm related to that family but a

Post by The Highlander
swift check through my family tree shows no one remotely like you
connected to me. The ludicrous presumption that I could be related so
some claim-jumping Latino mestizo like you revolts me, Señor Hinez, if
I may address you by what I imagine is your real name.

actually i could believe hines is related to you.
you are both boastful net-loons who make fantasic and unsubstantiated
claim{lies} while never offering a shred of proof.

Ah, yes, Mr. O'Hara; Boston's official Plastic Paddie! The man who
claims that the D-Day attack on Normandy was launched from New York or
maybe Boston.

The US sure has an ample supply of halfwits to choose from when
looking for cannonfodder.

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[William Black]

Post by The Highlander
The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.

The reality seems to be rather different.

'Celtic culture' was a very popular form, much like the 'American
lifestyle' is today.

It seems to have been adopted by a number of different European tribal or
ethnic groups because of this.

There doesn't actually seem to have been a single 'Celtic' ethnic or racial
group.

But it's still a good story.

[The Highlander]

On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:33:20 +0100, "William Black"

Post by William Black

Post by The Highlander
The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.

The reality seems to be rather different.
'Celtic culture' was a very popular form, much like the 'American
lifestyle' is today.
It seems to have been adopted by a number of different European tribal or
ethnic groups because of this.
There doesn't actually seem to have been a single 'Celtic' ethnic or racial
group.
But it's still a good story.

We like it. So do the fifty million people of Scots descent living on
the North American continent.

But of course one Englishman could never be wrong, eh?

The Highlander

Faodaidh nach ionann na beachdan anns
an post seo agus beachdan a' Ghàidheil.
The views expressed in this post are
not necessarily those of The Highlander.

[William Black]

Post by The Highlander
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:33:20 +0100, "William Black"

Post by William Black

Post by The Highlander
The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.

The reality seems to be rather different.
'Celtic culture' was a very popular form, much like the 'American
lifestyle' is today.
It seems to have been adopted by a number of different European tribal or
ethnic groups because of this.
There doesn't actually seem to have been a single 'Celtic' ethnic or racial
group.
But it's still a good story.

We like it. So do the fifty million people of Scots descent living on
the North American continent.
But of course one Englishman could never be wrong, eh?

I'm so glad you've finally worked that out.

It will make life simpler in future.

[Bob]

Post by William Black

Post by The Highlander
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:33:20 +0100, "William Black"

Post by William Black

Post by The Highlander
The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.

The reality seems to be rather different.
'Celtic culture' was a very popular form, much like the 'American
lifestyle' is today.
It seems to have been adopted by a number of different European tribal or
ethnic groups because of this.
There doesn't actually seem to have been a single 'Celtic' ethnic or racial
group.
But it's still a good story.

We like it. So do the fifty million people of Scots descent living on
the North American continent.
But of course one Englishman could never be wrong, eh?

I'm so glad you've finally worked that out.
It will make life simpler in future.
--
William Black
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Yep, stupid English twat.

[William Black]

Post by Bob

Post by William Black

Post by The Highlander
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 09:33:20 +0100, "William Black"

Post by William Black

Post by The Highlander
The Celts, following their trek from Upper Scythia via Greece,
northern Italy, France and into the Germanic regions, also settled in
Galicia, before finally moving on to Ireland. That's what our
traditions tell us and it is repeated in the Declaration of Arbroath,
our memorandum to the Pope on April 6th, 1320 AD. "borrowed" by your
now-collapsing republic to compose its own Declaration of Independence
in 17 something.

The reality seems to be rather different.
'Celtic culture' was a very popular form, much like the 'American
lifestyle' is today.
It seems to have been adopted by a number of different European tribal or
ethnic groups because of this.
There doesn't actually seem to have been a single 'Celtic' ethnic or racial
group.
But it's still a good story.

We like it. So do the fifty million people of Scots descent living on
the North American continent.
But of course one Englishman could never be wrong, eh?

I'm so glad you've finally worked that out.
It will make life simpler in future.

Yep, stupid English twat.

How one delights at the intellectual level of Usenet

The cut and thrust of argument moderated only by the gentle wit of the
participants.

Irony is nothing to do with either coppery or silvery...

Oh, what on earth makes you think I'm English, and while you're there,
what exactly is your definition of 'English'?

[William Black]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

We don't anymore.

Our best footballers play in their sides and we go there for our holidays.

I know this is going to hurt, but, unlike the USA, the UK has changed
tremendously in the past few decades.

[j***@earthlink.net]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

Especially those feeble fools who try to link their heritage to the
so-called aristocracy of that Spanish colony.

[Richard van Schaik]

Post by j***@earthlink.net

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.

Especially those feeble fools who try to link their heritage to the
so-called aristocracy of that Spanish colony.

Sneering as a hobby?

[Michael W Cook]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!

You are, Hines.

And as usual quoting news that is weeks out of date.

This appeared in the Independent at least six weeks ago.

But I wonder where Hines believed we all lived 10,000 years ago when there
were sixty metre ice sheets as far south as Birmingham ?

And much of Northern Europe was an arctic wasteland ?

The Watford Gap ?

Hines needs to do a bit of basic work on his archaeology and geography me
thinks - Basic school kid stuff really.

Nothing changes I see.

[Tiglath]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH
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"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago.

Yep, we sent the riff-raff to the cold room.

And I bet that swarthy Little Willie borrowed his entire Y chromosome
from peoples in the Iberian Peninsula.

William Black is a closet garlic-eater.

A Little Dick Spick.

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.

Leaving large genetic footprints is a lot of fun.

Iberians have always understood that and led by example.

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

And the pretty ones got a fresh load of genetic material to be sure.

Renia, Celia come to papa.

[Renia]

Post by Tiglath
And the pretty ones got a fresh load of genetic material to be sure.
Renia, Celia come to papa.

Hm, now that we're related? Anyway, we're about the same age, so you're
probably my couz, not my papa.

[Surreyman]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH
--------------------------------------------------------
"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.
The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.
People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."
Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.
Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.
Deeeelightful! -- DSH
The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.
These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.
"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.
"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."
Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.
Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

So the Celts only started 8,000 years ago in Spain?
And so what are 'Yanks' - eastern Orientals?
Or aren't we all just Abyssinians?

Twit.

Virginia was enjoyed!

Surreyman

[Larry Swain]

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

Well, that's odd, since the article says that the British descend from
CELTIC peoples from Spain, and so not LATIN peoples, but CELTS. But so
what?

Post by D. Spencer Hines
But it won't...
Because of Congenital & Engrained British Ignorance, Prejudice & Sloth.
DSH
--------------------------------------------------------
"A team from Oxford University has discovered that the Celts, Britain's
indigenous people, are descended from a tribe of Iberian fishermen who
crossed the Bay of Biscay 6,000 years ago. DNA analysis reveals they
have an almost identical genetic "fingerprint" to the inhabitants of
coastal regions of Spain, whose own ancestors migrated north between
4,000 and 5,000 BC.
The discovery, by Bryan Sykes, professor of human genetics at Oxford
University, will herald a change in scientific understanding of
Britishness.
People of Celtic ancestry were thought to have descended from tribes of
central Europe. Professor Sykes, who is soon to publish the first DNA
map of the British Isles, said: "About 6,000 years ago Iberians
developed ocean-going boats that enabled them to push up the Channel.
Before they arrived, there were some human inhabitants of Britain but
only a few thousand in number. These people were later subsumed into a
larger Celtic tribe... The majority of people in the British Isles are
actually descended from the Spanish."
Professor Sykes spent five years taking DNA samples from 10,000
volunteers in Britain and Ireland, in an effort to produce a map of our
genetic roots.
Research on their "Y" chromosome, which subjects inherit from their
fathers, revealed that all but a tiny percentage of the volunteers were
originally descended from one of six clans who arrived in the UK in
several waves of immigration prior to the Norman conquest.
Deeeelightful! -- DSH
The most common genetic fingerprint belongs to the Celtic clan, which
Professor Sykes has called "Oisin". After that, the next most
widespread originally belonged to tribes of Danish and Norse Vikings.
Small numbers of today's Britons are also descended from north African,
Middle Eastern and Roman clans.
These DNA "fingerprints" have enabled Professor Sykes to create the
first genetic maps of the British Isles, which are analysed in Blood of
the Isles, a book published this week. The maps show that Celts are
most dominant in areas of Ireland, Scotland and Wales. But, contrary to
popular myth, the Celtic clan is also strongly represented elsewhere in
the British Isles.
"Although Celtic countries have previously thought of themselves as
being genetically different from the English, this is emphatically not
the case," Professor Sykes said.
"This is significant, because the idea of a separate Celtic race is
deeply ingrained in our political structure, and has historically been
very divisive. Culturally, the view of a separate race holds water. But
from a genetic point of view, Britain is emphatically not a divided
nation."
Although the Romans ruled from AD 43 until 410, they left a tiny
genetic footprint. For the first 200 years occupying forces were
forbidden from marrying locally.
Don't tell the locals, but the hordes of British holidaymakers who
visited Spain this summer were, in fact, returning to their ancestral
home."

[Tiglath]

Post by Larry Swain

Post by D. Spencer Hines
Deeeeeelightful!
Hilarious!
This should serve to put the Brits in their place and stop them from
referring to the Spanish, as well as other Latin Peoples, as their
inferiors.

Well, that's odd, since the article says that the British descend from
CELTIC peoples from Spain,

Can't you read?

The article says that Brits descend from migrating IBERIANS of 4,000 BC, NOT
CELTS. Celts arrived in Spain 3,000 years later.